Web design is lame
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- fate0
" doing banner ads now at a place that's willing to take some risks could be super exciting"
Please exit this thread.
- Take a drawing or photography class for no reason but yourself. Chill and get some perspective again.ETM
- do you have any experience whatsoever in advertising?doesnotexist
- vaxorcist0
I think somebody needs to take up the guitar, or trumpet.... or windsurfing... something hedonistic and different can often inform your design, where you relearn how to be creative within tight boundaries... rather then fight them like a skydiver smashing his head against the airplane window....
- fate0
Guys, I have hobbies and other things I'm passionate about.
I still think web design is lame. The bean-counters and number geeks have taken over. There is no fun or passion in this field anymore.
Even print has more going for it...
- print doesmonospaced
- But why the fuck do we care about your hang up?ETM
- What validation are you seeking? The thread was not framed as a discussion or debate, but a statement.ETM
- The big budgets are still in TV, not online.jonnypompita
- vaxorcist0
they're not "hobbies and other things you're passionate about".... there's part of your LIFE... which is already waaay too short as it is, and not worth doing things you hate.... so if you make your LIFE worth living, you have a longer-term plan to stop making a living doing things you hate and start making a living doing what you're good at.... and if you're fixated on how the "bean counters and numbers geeks have taken over" then go elsewhere,... before you get too bitter.
- ernexbcn0
2013 just begun but I can give this thread the stupidest thread award already.
- ETM0
Online is so boring and uncreative. If only we had Flash still and the industry was a playground for companies with more ideas than business plans that handed out stocks like toilet paper and all went bust.
Seems like interesting stuff in the last few years still exists:
http://flipboard.com/
https://soundcloud.com/
http://slaveryfootprint.org/
http://www.ludei.com/sumon
http://helloracer.com/webgl/
http://discover.store.sony.com/t…
http://www.laurentiuswonen.com/j…- interesing urls.... and true about randomness of business plans....vaxorcist
- fate0
Let me put it to you this way.
No one here will disagree that Arnaud Mercier was a talented, skilled designer, or that his life was far too short.
But what was his legacy on this planet, beyond his family?
A bunch of web layouts.
- He was recognized for his work. Is that not something? Was he to cure cancer?ETM
- You could say that about any profession. Eventually our sun will explode too.jonnypompita
- ETM0
Listen you're clearly have some sort of existential crisis. Perhaps there is someone better to speak to than QBN. I mean that with sincerity.
- slappy0
As traditional advertising revenues continue to decline, the web continues to thrive. It's becoming the backbone for the rest of a companies marketing materials to hang off.
We are seeing clients move from using 5% of the marketing budget for digital to up to 80%
Good design costs money and digital budgets are on the up.
- When the internet reaches 100% of marketing, then we can spring the trap and blow it up.cannonball1978
- I fondly remember the 90ies, when just about all ad agencies hushed digital and considered it a mere afterthoughtPeter
- and being a "mere afterthought" meant we could do cool stuff without all the idea-killing meetings from hell!vaxorcist
- animatedgif0
Out of interest Fate what would you rather have a portfolio full of?
Other than these ridiculous comparisons to "You're not a doctor, a lawyer" because yeah a lawyer adds so much to the world.
- I'm guessing ad work, branding, campaigns, events, books, brochures, packaging, etc...monospaced
- Yep. What monospaced said.fate
- hans_glib0
i kind of understand where fate is coming from. In the early days of teh interwebz (pre standards) there was all manner of interesting stuff happening and being created/tried out. But as the medium has matured, and standards have been drawn up, and metrics used to determine what works and what doesn't, many sites end up looking and working the same way.
So it's fairly soul-destroying producing one site after another.
I used to work at a packaging design outfit and almost exclusively worked on M&S food packaging. After a while it all got very samey and dull and I felt like fate. Doing the same thing month in month out isn't very conducive to creativity. So I moved to a firm that did a lot of brochure work and it was great for a while, but eventually got into a rut there as well. And so moved on again.
The key is to have a wide range of projects to keep you fresh.
But at the same time, don't get into design to have a "legacy". It's far too ephemeral for that.
- FallowDeer0
I kind of agree with fate and the post above is what I was thinking.
Early days everything had an experimental edge about it, exploring where we could take web design. Now everyone has found a "formula" that works and everything pretty much looks the same.No doubt it will change when trends change, but not much
- inteliboy0
It will ebb and flow. Just like when the modern magazine matured, the idea of a magazine spread was experimented with. This will happen with web design.
Also, considering the last 15 years of web design... I'm not sure there is that much to be nostalgic about. It's been a pretty ugly place until recently imo. The web is far better designed and interesting then it ever has been.
- qTime0
I'm amazed at how fractured the industry has become.
It feels like you have to specialise in something to get a job.
- ukit20
The web has gone mainstream. It cashed in and sold us out for the money.
- formed0
What I find far more "lame" is doing "bad" design.
I don't think it really matters what the medium is.
I come from an architecture background, so graphics/web will always seem "temporary" and "less meaningful", but really it doesn't matter. If you create a logo and basic website for some starting company that makes a huge difference in your client's business/life, that's pretty cool.
Everything changes. I do think Jobs/Apple essentially killed web design (eventually it'll come around, but 10 years of testing/progress are gone) and has left us with Word Press being the defacto standard that no one can avoid (not unless you have extreme budgets).
That is "lame", the rest just depends on the context you are looking at.