PC vs MAC
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- zarkonite0
yes hackers love mac, look at the results of the pwn2own blackhat contest of the last few years.
2007: In the first contest, Dino A. Dai Zovi and Shane Macaulay worked together to take down the first MacBook Pro.
2008: In the 2008 contest, a successful exploit of Safari caused Mac OS X to be the first OS to fall in a hacking competition.
2009: Charlie Miller performed another successful exploit of Safari to hack into a Mac.
2010: (On March 15—nine days before the contest was to begin—Apple released sixteen patches for WebKit and Safari.) trying to cheat eh? but the result was? *drum roll* Charlie Miller successfully hacked Safari 4 on Mac OS X.
2011: During the first day of the competition Safari and Internet Explorer were defeated by researchers.
A secure os, it is not.
- would you agree it's more secure then windows?akrok
- most of the hack demonstrated requires the user to click on a link.pango
- Although the Mac base grows, it's still more security by obscurity than the actual underlying OS.ETM
- difference is, once a flaw is found, Apple release a patch quick. Microsoft take aaaaaagesautoflavour
- GeorgesII0
hahhaha
sorry hacking on a mac
is fuckn retarded- Shows how much you know -unix based systems are teh oober for hacking from, see: http://cdn.chud.com/…detritus
- nigga pleeeeeeease,GeorgesII
- lol,
12 hours of work straight, I'm hungry for a big macGeorgesII - hackers love OS Xmonospaced
- zoozoo0
"Both are just tools made by slave labor and mega corporations that don't give shit about you. So use the tool you are comfortable with. The only consideration would be to look at the environment. If you mostly talk to PC people - get PC if Mac get Mac."
Sense. You made some.
- animatedgif0
^ "cold uninviting color scheme." & "slave labor and mega corporations"
I LOL'D
- pr20
I really have to question design skills of people who claim that mac OS looks better as in reality it's FUGLY, counter-intuitive and with cold uninviting color scheme. Each time i have to work with Mac it's like talking to an ugly girl at a bar. Sure the boxes themselves are beautiful but the OS - oh GOD!
That Win 8 video on first page is directly related to how i feel about Mac OS. In some alternative universe maybe it makes sense to some but sure it barely ever makes sense to me.
Bitching done.
Both are just tools made by slave labor and mega corporations that don't give shit about you. So use the tool you are comfortable with. The only consideration would be to look at the environment. If you mostly talk to PC people - get PC if Mac get Mac.
- oh shit, i just got dragged into this debate... how come?pr2
- < this guy thinks OS X is fugly compared to Windows. That says EVERYTHINGmonospaced
- dude, rmaind me to never hire you as a designerpr2
- pr2, i would say the same thing when i take you to the bar.akrok
- i gues i would end up with the hot chick but you would be happy with the ugly one from the corner...pr2
- that hot chick has HIV. just so you know.akrok
- haven't really seen Win8 but win7 is god awful! too many transparent elements and animation. inconsistent layout.pango
- the ugly one is a virgin.akrok
- OS Lion not very good as well. mission control and launch pad is retarded.pango
- seriously, consistency and OSX are two mutually exclusive concepts. open itunes, look at the maximize buttons, pfff.zarkonite
- there are no maximize buttons on iTunes anymore.monospaced
- akrok0
get your self a atari and call it a day.
- moldero0
my mac pro crashed once because of hard drive failure, and even then that S.M.A.R.T thing allowed my mac to run long enough to salvage all my shit. my PC's in the past (although super fast because of pricing on customizing and building my own) on the other hand had constant blue screens, lost all my shit once during a hard drive failure, many many problems, though I knew how to handle it, was proficient in DOS, pretty much anything that came up with the PC I knew how to fix it. I know shit about the OS X backend its DOS equivalent or whatever it is, never had a problem ever, this allowed me to concentrate on my shitty designs rather than having to toggle focusing on knowing how to fix my PC and my crappy work. now I can just focus on making my crappy work more crappy.
- zarkonite0
is there an equivalent to Windows-E in OSX? opening a finder window with a shortcut from anywhere essentially?
@monospaced: ctrl-n on windows doesn't work for you? and to respond to using the top left buttons to resize a window once you tear it out... well you just deconstructed your own point, you said the workflow was always better on OSX, you're basically saying I have to add steps to get the same results. My point is simply that once you know how to work the OS they will both work just as well with different problems...
I'm mostly on OSX but I use both professionally. For some reason 3D and compositing just work better for me on windows.
- ctrl n doesn't work in XPmonospaced
- not only does it not work in XP, ther'es not even a MENU command to open a new window. So inefficient.monospaced
- you do realize that XP is the equivalent of OS9 right? it's that old...zarkonite
- I think most Mac users still only think Windows is XP.ETM
- 20020
- must be a newer thing, it doesn't work in the older Windows versions... seems like they finally COPIED Apple on thismonospaced
- ctrl-n works since at least 1995... I can't remember Win3.zarkonite
- Doesn't work in XP.monospaced
- monospaced0
I find it frustrating that in Windows there's no key command (that I know of) to open a new window. How ironic.
- Ctrl+n?haga
- But isn't there a windows key?i_monk
- Shortcuts are way better on a mac.
None of that alt+Menu Letter+Command letter shitanimatedgif - alt+menu letter+command letteranimatedgif
- Don't mind him, he's an artist.raf
- syst_m0
try switching to pc and doing key commands. shit, i know my whole workflow would be fucked up for a while, and then i'd go home and work on a mac.
- you want fucked up work flow.. try working on a German installed OSX machine..autoflavour
- working under pressure that is..autoflavour
- speaking only broken germanautoflavour
- zarkonite0
then again, I wish I had this when I'm on windows: http://totalfinder.binaryage.com…
- 20020
PC or Mac does not assist in making good design.
But, again, how many good designers out there uses PC?
- zarkonite0
@monospaced: I disagree that CS is the same on both. In photoshop if you have two files open in tabs and you tear one tab out, the new window will be maximized and it will usually spill out of your screen, you have to fuck around to get it small enough to fit in your screen because you can only drag from the bottom right... in windows when you tear a tab out, it resizes to fit inside your screen and even if it didn't you could be resizing any window from any side.
If you know how to work both OS's properly you'd see that they're totally equivalent for workflow.
- there's a button on the mac side that automatically resizes to the screen, also the F keymonospaced
- Anyway, I meant IN GENERAL. I was agreeing that as a designer the Adobe software is essentially the samemonospaced
- Window > Arrangei_monk
- Continuity0
^ Just to add to this:
if you seriously propose that abortion Gimp as a CS replacement, please ... DIAF