PC vs MAC
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- rmstice
We've all seen the commercials I know... But what exactly makes one better (speaking specifically for graphic design purposes)? I'm a designer by trade so obviously own apple everything but have found myself in a company where everyone uses PCs. Everything else seems to be dandy with the company, work / clients / people / space / etc... Should I be concerned or suck it up? What is my 'argument'? Thanks
- zoozoo0
PCs are ok, but I like the MAC aesthetic better. It is designed with more detail to the users needs. Little things like it's called Royal... oh wait.
Yes, ask for a mac and tell them you work faster on them.
- "MAC" LOLanimatedgif
- god like hahah.
notice i capitalized PCs also.zoozoo
- CanHasQBN0
go away spammer
- omg0
if you want better designs and you actually care enough about your designers and their needs... ask your designers what computer they'd like, and give them what they want... nuff said.
- <inteliboy
- +1 yes!akrok
- there we go.zarkonite
- yup, if its a macmoldero
- jkmoldero
- Want better designs? Your designers can design "better" on one or the other?ETM
- Maybe someone is more productive, in general, on one or the other, but I highly doubt they design "better".ETM
- exactly ETM
more efficient on their preferred machinemoldero - you can do more designing with productive tools in my opinion.omg
- zoozoo0
omg has it right, in my opinion.
- rmstice0
I agree (I've worked and freelanced in enough agencies to know that macs are 'nicer') but I'm going to need more than just 'it looks prettier and we (the design team) know how to use the hard drive on an apple better.' Are there specifications like... Graphic cards / plugins / fonts... I'm just looking for a solid case to bring up.
- "know how to use the hard drive on an apple better."
WTF does that mean??ETM - robin?monospaced
- "know how to use the hard drive on an apple better."
- zoozoo0
rmstice, you sound like someone that has never had to work in an assmbly line. The mac OPERATING SYSTEM has a much more productive aesthetic. When repeating the same motions over and over you will notice the difference. If your going to surf the web and mess around casually on some different software then really it does not matter.
- the finder is junk compared to explorer for managing files.zarkonite
- and CS5's window management is better on windows... that being said, it's all personal preferences.zarkonite
- i used to fly on OS9 but I like the lionzoozoo
- The finder is far superior for file management! HOly shit, Windows fails here. I guess different strokes for different folks.monospaced
- @mono no file paths is a real pain in the ass, how is the finder better? I honestly don't see itzarkonite
- there are file paths are you daftdoesnotexist
- lvl_130
it's not about the machine, it's about the person behind the machine. you can get a solid machine on either side of the mac/pc fence.
bottom line is you get what you pay for, and it really doesn't fucking matter if it's a mac or pc. it just depends on what you are really looking for.
- akrok0
are you getting ikea chairs or herman millers? same shit.
- akrok0
the real question should be. do you have a budget for it? also, this might look like a expense. but it's more of a investment.
- 20020
lets name one designer who uses PC and is well known.
- MrT0
A lot of this debate (mass-debate?) clashes with seriously ingrained behaviour. I will never graphic design anything with a PC in Windows ever again. The armchair psychologist would trace this fear back to sometime before the year 2000 when I sent a PC-artworked job to a print shop. Never. Ever. Again. Further back in my stubborn mind are those Quadra 800-authored floppy disks containing my final degree show work.
To many people - who are no doubt correct - there's no globally accepted objective reason you should choose one or the other. So, just find the reason that works for yourself. As is so often tried, it will never be concluded for everyone on simply price, looks, compatibility, Photoshop Actions performance comparison charts or how many fucking slots it has in the back.
IMHO.
- CanHasQBN0
As a design company, you should be discriminatory about what objects make up your workspace. If I walk into a design studio and see a long row of PC's, I would think less of the company from a design POV. You can say it's 'just a tool', but it also says a lot about taste.
If it was a stapler...whatever. But something that you spend 8 hours a day on and has such prominence in a workspace... it should look good.
- Friend in Sydney missed out on a job because ('deciding factor') they presented on a Dell laptop.MrT
- yes.. because a studio looks totally professional using home-type iMacsmonolith
- Let me guess... you also drive a VW or Audi.ETM
- a studio with iMacs looks better than one with Dell laptops and fugly black monitors everywhere.monospaced
- monolith, yes it looks a million types better. Those 'home type' iMacs are just as capable, if not more capable, business-wise.CanHasQBN
- Your idea that iMacs are just for home use is completely wrong and ignorant.CanHasQBN
- There's nothing a PC can do that a Mac can't, from a business POV. and virtually all design businesses use them.CanHasQBN
- dbloc0
MC
- ETM0
"I'm a designer by trade so obviously own apple everything"
Translation: "I am a slave to marketing... yet I believe I am super creative and think outside the box too.""but have found myself in a company where everyone uses PCs. Everything else seems to be dandy with the company, work / clients / people / space / etc... Should I be concerned or suck it up? "
Translation: The fact that I question a quality work environment simply because they don't use Macs indicates that I am new to the industry and really have no idea what it can be like and how lucky I likely am.
- fadein110
I've always used both - in the old days it made way more sense coding sites on a PC as it looked and worked like 95% of your audience.
Now I design on a Mac and do a lot of coding on the Mac also.
Windows 7 was a huge improvement and CS5 is less buggy on Windows than Mac in my opinion. But the iMac screen gets me going every time (27").
But osX is so retarded in some ways - like the way you cannot move files or copy files in an application window... just plain dumb and not the userfriendliness they always shout about.
Apple have changed a great deal and are now more targetted at the consumer rather than the Pro - you just have to look at Apples stupid leather textures etc in their apps. It feels like two companies sometimes - the beautiful minimal Zen of the product design running these tacky overdesigned Apple apps.
But just use what you are comfortable with. As I said CS5 works great on both.
- craigatkinson0
I like Apple products regardless of their marketing and bad soft voices
- Stugoo0
basically what fadein11 said.
PC is cheaper, easier to replace and targets 90% of your audience.
Mac is more expensive but they do last. I much prefer the way sites are rendered on a mac. But with that being said, f you go mac, buy a refurbished one.
- raf0
For webdesign/development you need both for testing. For me, a Mac is a cheaper option as it can run both systems, even simultaneously.
Windows typography is an eyesore to most people who have been using Macs. This especially goes to web typography, Windows support for @font-face is still imperfect even in Windows 8 with IE 10.
Speaking of Windows 8... this was pretty much my experience too:
- animatedgif0
Windows doesn't have Expose or Quicklook
End of discussion
- I LOVE quicklook. I can't imagine not having it. Or Expose, for that matter.monospaced
- alt tab bitches.Stugoo
- not even the same... not even fucking CLOSE. It's actually patheticmonospaced
- nah the OSX file browsing is sick except for(until snow leopard?) not being able to copy file pathsStugoo
- that quicklook is awesome... I use bridge however, that works better for labeling files.zarkonite
- we got that apple + tabdoesnotexist