iFlowReader out of business
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- hans_glib0
booooorrrriiiiing......
- ernexbcn0
If you ask me 1 or 2 years ago if I wanted to invest some money into a book reading/selling app for iOS I wouldn't even put a buck since it was pretty fucking evident Apple was going to get in that business.
I feel no pity for those guys.
- Boz0
ah I get it.. so now when you want to build your business and you want to publish to iOS you need to think about what Apple MIGHT do in the future.. GOT IT!! LOL..
Total disconnect with reality.
- that is how every good business person makes decisions – thinking about what might happen in the future.Amicus
- ernexbcn0
Total disconnect with reality is what those guys did.
Any company might want to get into your idea, fuck, Apple's is even adding an "InstaPaper like" functionality into the new Safari in Lion:
- Notice how Marco doesn't whine like a bitch about it either. Just gets to fucking workanimatedgif
- ESKEMA0
they can continue to sell books via the Book Store. What they don't want is to pay Apple the 30% fee. that's all there is.
Any sale occured in the iOS ecosystem has to pass by the 30% fee, period. If you can't live with that, leave.
- Boz0
They cant' afford giving Apple another 30% how is it that you don't fucking understand this. Jesus it's like arguing with bricks.
Read the article and why Apple killed them. Forcing someone to use your proprietary services or being booted out of platform is ridiculous. Only the worst Apple apologists can approve of this.. Crazy.
The part:
"Why Do We Have to Shutdown?"
- Boz0
More about this whole issue here (btw, this is just the beginning)
- Boz0
Apple is just down right blackmailing them and wants money
http://arstechnica.com/apple/new…
- ernexbcn0
@Boz what part of IT'S THEIR FUCKING PLATFORM you don't understand?
They have a choice of going to Android.
And it's you the one calling people retarded?
- Boz0
Btw, this issue is not only with small guys like iFLowReader.. Amazon, Sony and others are heavily influenced by this. Unlike AMazon and Sony and others iFLowReader guys are small and up and coming business.
- ernexbcn0
Also thanks for bringing up articles from 3 months ago.
- ESKEMA0
Why are they killed? why can't they just turn their business to Android and all gets well??
Why?
Is iOS the only lucrative business out there?? Are the other platforms so bad that being pushed aside by Apple will terminate your business?
This last part contradicts everything you've been crying about, because you recommend people moving toward Android, so why don't they do it and be happy forever after?
- animatedgif0
Apple did the hardest part of their business for them, getting users payment info on record and getting those users to part with cash on a whim.
Why should they get a free ride? Again it's middlemen whining about middleman fees.
- jimbojones0
their business model was reselling through a reseller ffs
- And how stupid they were of not thinking Apple would also sell books...ernexbcn
- ernexbcn0
While we discuss a lot of kids are buying virtual fruit for their iOS Smurf game, dev is getting 70% and Apple is getting 30% and not a single fuck was given.
- showpony0
*novelty yawn*
- Boz0
Because.. for some of you who don't understand how startups work..
1. When you start a company like eBook reader guys, you only have resources to build one platform first. In the case of these guys it was iOS.
2. They invest a lot of money and are/were probably planning on delivering to Android. But to do this you need to grow.. they don't have resources as a big company like amazon or sony or others to publish to all platforms at once and at the time they started this iOS was the most visited mobile platform.
It's not as simple as that as some of you just spout out..
3. So, when a startup like this, builds a platform for eBooks and when there is no indication or nothing says on developer terms that Apple will require you to use their "future" eBook store and have to pay them 30% for distribution you naturally build and publish things as many others do..just like anyone else..
But, then one day, Apple wants to get a piece of eBook sales and changes rules where publishers and sellers of this type of content simply can't release their apps and platforms on iOS unless they are paying Apple a share.
Keep in mind.. this has nothing to do with the functionality of the platform or making sure you abide by technical rules.. this is pure and complete blackmail. A mafia like racquet.
Yes, I warmly recommend everyone building business on Android first then as a secondary thing to release to iOS simply because of stuff like this but unfortunately Apple has a notable market-share and again, thanks to the same types of guys like iFlowReader.. without them iOS wouldn't even be where it is if people didn't release stuff you needed but Apple didn't have.
It's Apple's anti-competitive nature through and through.
Just imagine.. this is the equivalent of people not able to sell MP3 songs on OSX without going through iTunes and giving Apple 30% share.. But unlike mobile, OSX doesn't change licensing/developer agreement in this way.
Can you imagine what it would it mean for those releasing stuff on OSX? But on mobile it's not important because these companies are small.. and Apple's thing is always better, so anti-competitive behavior is totally justifiable /s
- seeessess0
Never EVER put all your eggs in one basket.
- exactly, I'm a designer AND a Bob Marley impersonatorjimbojones
- HA!ian
- jimbojones0
those guys didn't build any fucking platform, apple made their platform available to them. apple wouldn't give a fuck if iFlow would make an independent online ebook store, but apparently nobody would buy shit there, because iFlow didn't build a platform
- ernexbcn0
@Boz ANY in-app purchase, be it a virtual item or real world/subscription is bound to the 70/30 deal.
Call it whatever you want but it's a decent cut, they are providing you with a platform, good documentation and they handle of the transactions/bank shit for you.
Not fair? take your toys somewhere else or build your own.