Help Canada not get screwed by our ISPs
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- Peter0
I haven't got that much interest in recent changes in Canadian laws, or Canada, but I do like to know if this is some knee-jerk reaction to piracy?
You can't stop people sharing gbs of movies, but we can restrict internet access....that sort of thing?
Because really...who youtubes 25gb a month?
- People will youtube 25GB in the near future.nb
- per day. how badass will that bereinitialize
- Julesvm0
got this from my ISP yesterday.
:(
Usage Based Billing-UBB
As some of you know, the CRTC recently rendered a decision forcing all independent DSL and Cable Internet providers to substantially match incumbent (like Bell) usage rate caps. This will influence all of our internet service packages eventually, but DSL residential customers in Ontario and Quebec first, as of March 1. Along with you, we are not pleased with this, and our view is more fully expressed in our press release which you can find here: http://www.teksavvynews.com/
From March 1 on, users of the up to 5 Mbps packages in Ontario can expect a usage cap of 25GB (60GB in Quebec), substantially down from the 200GB or unlimited deals TekSavvy was able to offer before the CRTC's decision to impose usage based billing. Users who were on unlimited package rates will be returned to $31.95 capped rates although larger blocks of bandwidth can be purchased.*
In order to facilitate this transition we have constructed a new easy-to-navigate portal at https://myworld.teksavvy.com where our customers can choose from the amended and new packages.
The details of our new rate plans and charges can be found there. You will be able to register using the account information found at the end of this email. More on the portal below. In addition, in order to accommodate these changes, we have amended our Terms of Service, primarily regarding implementation. The amended Terms form part of your Agreement with TekSavvy and can be viewed at https://secure.teksavvy.com/en/t….Please note if you do not choose a new service before March 1, 2011, your existing package will be transitioned into an amended package. Existing packages and the ones they will be replaced with in each case can be found at http://teksavvy.com/en/faq-ubb_o… for Ontario and http://teksavvy.com/en/faq-ubb_q… for Quebec.
Content and data like Netflix, YouTube, IPTV, large file downloads or other streaming services can consume large amounts of bandwidth and place your cap limits in jeopardy very quickly. We encourage you to monitor your usage carefully, as the CRTC has imposed a very high overage rate, above your new monthly limit, of $1.90 per gigabyte ($2.35 per gigabyte in Quebec).
The CRTC did however provide an option for insurance usage blocks at $4.75 per 40GB block per month, which can be purchased if you want to reduce your cost for use above 25GB (60GB in Quebec).
Ontario and Quebec up to 5 Mbps users with a monthly limit of 25GB and 60GB respectively:
- horton0
i was fully in support of this until it was brought to my attention that Netflix uses up to 20% of total US bandwidth during peak hours... and somehow that doesn't seem right for a company charging $8/month.
- That's Netflix's problem to sort with backbones etc.. not our problem as consumers.ETM
- ETM0
I am not sure what perception there is of Internet in Canada currently, but Netflix just rated our two major Cable providers (Shaw and Rogers) as the top delivery networks for their streaming service in North America.
Right now at the house I pay Shaw $47month CDN for 15mb/1mb and 170gb limit per month. Which is a soft limit that they only enforce when you frequently break it. As far as I know, uploads don't count against that limit. If I wanted to pay more, I can get a 50mb/3mb or a 100mb/5mb plan. The only complaint is that the upload speeds could be better.
But regards to this ruling, I can't imagine a company like Shaw implementing it. Now Telus on the other hand (Telco/DSL service) I could see jumping on it.
- Shaw did implement it. Shaw on Demand is their concern
http://saveournet.ca…Naygon - Shaw charges you as much as Netflix does for 1 movie. They have a stake in this just like Bell and Rogers
=Naygon
- Shaw did implement it. Shaw on Demand is their concern
- tOki0
To give you an idea of what Australia is like:
I have a 160gb plan per month. 80gb is peak (8am-12am) and 80gb is offpeak (12am-8am). This costs AU$80 a month for a 24mbps line (actual is downstream more around 17mbps, and upstream around 6mbps). Uploads count to this data also. If we go over either of our quotas, we get shaped to 64kbps up & down...so they sell the plans as unlimited, because they are - you just get your connection slowed to dialup speed when you go over.
Some of the more nasty telcos will actually charge you for every mb you go over..I remember about 3 years ago a friend of mine got a $3000 bill from Telstra
- A $3,000 bill. lol. I had a $1,500 bill for my cell phone as a teen. My father almost murdered me.shellie
- abettertomorrow0
Hmmm
We don't have limits here and the system works pretty well
- *checks status of 20GB of concurrent torrent downloadsabettertomorrow
- with one ISP, I just rebooted the cable model when uTorrent got slow, works mostly...vaxorcist
- monNom0
Congratulations, you found Netflick's PR campaign.
You have ALWAYS had a bandwidth limit on your internet connection. When it was dial-up, you paid by the minute. With broad band, you have a quota 10-100gigs download depending on your package, and a fraction of that upload. If you go over, you get a warning (p2p users have run into this for years). and eventually get billed or cut-off. This makes perfect sense because if the telcos need to build out the last mile to deliver 1 terabyte to ever house each month instead of 100BGig, it's going to cost a whole lot more (though maybe not 10x ).
Netflicks doesn't like this cause it makes them a fucking joke up here. 7.99 for some movies that you aren't interested in, but that's all they have, and an extra $30 on your internet bill. You're better off doing 'on demand' or renting (or subscribing for a movie channel).
My thinking: pay for what you use, don't ask you neighbours to subsidize your downloads because you found what you thought was a loophole.
- moldero0
bye bye youtube, hello again HTML you boring ass mother fucker
- kgvs720
Visit our website* . . . .
*Standard rates may apply.
- pizzafire0
here's an interesting scenario:
"The assignment: to build a website, rich in video and interactive features, that would outline to the public the benefits of a huge proposed infrastructure project.
The discussions kept getting derailed by the same concern. In Canada, many Internet customers have strict limits on the amount of data they can download and upload. If they go over those limits, Internet providers such as BCE Inc.’s (BCE-T) Bell Canada unit and Rogers Communications Inc., (RCI.B-T) charge them extra fees. Would this website actually use up too much of the Internet?"
- ok_not_ok0
At&t Canada did the same thing in the late 90's when I was still living in Toronto, it didn't work. They lost customers who decided to move to another company that offered unlimited usage.
- camer0
lol @ "Help Canada..."
i was like, "whaa?? we need help?"
then i signed it.
- prophetone0
- that's me surfing h73 with my girlfriend ally sheedyprophetone
- ...in six months from nowprophetone
- hahah :) H73 ftw.mikotondria3
- decisionman0
Dunno. I better keep of QBN for the time being. Using up precious kbs.
See you on the BBS!
- abettertomorrow0
Because if so, I would go for that
- abettertomorrow0
Is there an "unlimited data" plan?
- abettertomorrow0
@decisionman – Sorry to disagree but, Yes, there will be
- decisionman0
@abettertomorrow – Maybe I'm just cynical, but... no, there won't be.
- yup, the US will just bend over and say thanks, it feels great, big brothers been fucking you over for yearsmoldero