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Or is it just in transition to something much much better?
I see it to be kinda like skateboarding in the late 80's / early 90's... ... picked-on, laughed-at... ... called a 'dead sport' or much worse...
... only to reemerge w/mass popularity etc...
I feel it's about to get really good again... and that Steve Yobs will have no choice but to MAKE IT STOP CRASHING when developing on my sweet-ass Mac.
Comparing Flash to skateboarding?
tehehe... I needed some sort of 'comeback' to compare it to
what constitutes 'dead'? relevancy isn't that black and white
Then it re-emerged as AJAX and is stronger than ever.
It could be similar with Flash. New Adobe demos suggest you will be able to dual-export in Flash for old browsers and html5 for new ones.
fuck steve jobs
It's amazing, you assume everyone's gone and then start a thread on Flash's potential demise and suddenly 12 responses in 2 minutes.
The days of selling all-Flash sites to medium sized businesses are gone I think. On the other hand its still the best option a lot of times for high-end marketing sites or games.
Use the Flash. Don't let it use you.
I think the web itself is dead as we know it..
We are in a full blown transition to application model on mobile devices, handhelds, TVs, phones, tablets etc..
I think it's only natural.. as web 2.0 was maturing, so did business models.. and more and more we saw startups creating services/platforms with API hooks. This is Web 3.0.
I was and am involved with several startups and this is how things are morphing now..everyone is doing this model.. it's the next step.
Most sites don't have the destination model anymore in terms of web site.. they do have website still, but not for the same necessity as before, less and less people want to get people to visit their sites. It's all about APIs.. so Netflix, Hulu and all others are now using devices and your TV and your consoles to hook into the those websites you were using your computer to visit.
Even now, you see that our desktop computers won't be really using browsers anymore but will use online stores such as OSX App Store, or Intel's AppUp, or Adobe's InMarket etc where you will be running applications the same way you run them on your home/portable devices.
We have entered a new generation where the web will hold data, API platforms and so on and as I said, apps will be the ones acting as front end hooking into the cloud.
This brings us to Flash.. Flash as a plugin probably won't be as important as it was up to this point.. this is why for some time now we have seen Adobe and Microsoft shift Flash and Silverlight to development platforms that run on desktops/web/mobile devices etc.. That's why they created Open Screen Project a few years ago.. This is why we have AIR..
AIR is in fact the future of Flash. As the devices become more powerful (our mobile phones using dual or even quad core ARM and Intel processors ) we will see more and more immersive apps running through AIR, Silverlight etc..
If you look at what Adobe showcased on MAX 2010, it's all geared towards what I'm mentioning here.. you will be building apps with Actionscript and Flash/AIR runtimes for game consoles, mobile phones, tablets, TVs etc.. and hooking into APIs like YouTube, Netflix, Amazon etc etc..
So to wrap it up.. Flash as a plugin will eventually die.. that was pretty much inevitable, but Flash as a platform will continue thriving..
HTML5 is now at the point where it will probably do a good enough job for simplest thing and news sites and blogs and stuff like that that doesn't have a spot as an app or API on these devices.. and in that Flash really doesn't have a place.. there's no need for it.
My 2 cents.
Mobile and apps will be important, but let's not overhype it - I don't think in any way shape or form we will see the traditional web "die" and be replaced by mobile. Many people spend the majority of their time at work in front of a screen, are they going to drop the 20" screen for an iPhone? I'm a pretty heavy web user and I spend 95% of my time on the "traditional web" and 5% (if that) on mobile.
All of the Zynga games use flash. they are making billions. It ain't dead. It is just changing how it is used.
There are many Twitter clients for OS X and I'm still using the website and don't see myself turning over to a dedicated app for that any time soon.
So yeah, there might be new apps that access web content, but the browser has still a future.