How to move...to Netherlands
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- ukit0
Perhaps I am moving as well. I've pretty much given up on this country of idiots.
- It's all that drinking you guys do in the UK. Killed all the brain cells. :)ethandmarquis
- I am in the US, and no, people here are just born stupid:)ukit
- Only in Kentucky ;)ethandmarquis
- hahaha.akrokdesign
- Agreed. US is full of morons. Wish I had the means to move out of here as well.duckofrubber
- ethandmarquis0
You don't need citizenship. Just get the permanent residency. The Dutch government is in fluctuation so I would wait until things settle down here before getting citizenship. If you are coming from the USA or Canada you really shouldn't have any problems getting anything. I got a biz startup loan after only two weeks here.
- this is what i was tellin u continuity... go freelance dude********
- Yeah I know, I just need to have that sum in the bank to satisfy the permit requirements. There's the rub.Continuity
- this is what i was tellin u continuity... go freelance dude
- nolovelost0
It is ok but not going nuts here, Sid Lee have been hiring crazy, but apart form that agency wise, its quite quiet. You will probably be able to intern relatively easily.
- isn't working for free always possible? ;)********
- strawb. frog also going nuts... the only agency thats doin badly is 180, rest are smooth as********
- Not necessary for free, there is a system for some payment here for interns.nolovelost
- isn't working for free always possible? ;)
- maikel0
@continuity
It sounds like a great idea to start an agency without local knowledge. Good business at it's best.Anyway, worse than the language and getting the visa is THE WEATHER! well, I'm here in London so there's little I can say.
As georgesIII said, take a little time to be there before wanting to get a job. Make sure that you know not only the language but also the culture unless your strongest skill is purely technical (Devs and such).
Just think how much the average Americans take the piss of the Latins and (skilled or not) and picture yourself that this time you will be the immigrant. yet Dutch are better mannered than the average Joe...
- You really don't need to the know the language super well, there are plenty of international minded firms here.nolovelost
- *Latins, indians, asians... well about about anything else 'not american'maikel
- In general, I don't see a reason to hire a foreigner when you can use local talent. Ironically, I'm an expat.maikel
- Except that a lot of local talent have been leaving for greener pastures, from what I've heard.Continuity
- Yeah to don't be a Mexican! No speaka ingles.ethandmarquis
- try that in dutch....maikel
- ukit0
We should all band together and start a community in a slum somewhere. Little America.
- +maikel
- hahahaha********
- Squattin' it in the Marnixstraat FTW. :PContinuity
- You know, on the weekends play baseball and other American things.ukit
- And ice hockey for the upper part of North America.Continuity
- Rename the city to New New Yorkraf
- rock n roll.akrokdesign
- ********0
amsterdam qbn drinks?
i think we tried a while back but they dissolved into the ether some how- bueler?********
- When I'm finally back there, I'll be up for it.Continuity
- bueler?
- nolovelost0
^ Sure if in the next couple of weeks I am in, Turkey from the 26th.
- ********0
hmmm im away this weekend, the 26-31 aug and 7 - 23 sept, so if anyone wants to meet me (im pretty awesome) it has to be in between then
- when i say 'pretty awesome' i actually mean UBER awesome********
- when i say 'pretty awesome' i actually mean UBER awesome
- Gizz0
Mabye I can start a 'QBN - Welcome to the Netherlands' event. Learn Dutch, walk arroun the 'grachten', see the design highlights and get drunk with Heineken Beer... :D
- do they really drink Heineken. cause it's really bad beer. one that you would rather export.akrokdesign
- Trappist Dubbel ftwContinuity
- I think Heineken is the most sold. I live almost next to the factory/brewery. But Jupiler/Hertog Jan are the better beers.Gizz
- ********0
ukit >
• i abhor sprawl, the suburbs, and the overuse of cars in america. traveling everywhere by bike or walking would be a dream. urban planning in the US is mostly garbage, where they create their cities for the automobile and not for the people. i hate the fact that, living in the US, we are so dependent on oil and need to pollute our air every time we need to get somewhere. it's ridiculous to me how irresponsible that is, and yet barely anybody gives it a second thought. you could say that i could move to bike-friendly Portland, but really, Portland is only 1% of what the NL is as far as bike/pedestrian accessibility.
• overall liberal mentality of the people.
• it's gorgeous. probably the best looking city i've ever been to.
- yeah, thats nice.akrokdesign
- And this is to say nothing of A'dam's absolutely fantastic arts scene.Continuity
- riding to work and everywhere else is a real treat. its something i still find a treat after 4 yrs. fuck traffic.********
- I live about 2 miles away from work (here in the US), yet there is no physical way for me to get there by bike. it's RIDICULOUS.********
- And nothing caps a night on the town quite like FEBO.Continuity
- ********0
how many of you here are expats vs natives?
- Expatnolovelost
- Expatethandmarquis
- expat!********
- So this country disappears due to its relaxed immigration laws in how many generations?...raf
- expatmaikel
- ********0
i bet we all know eachother... its a small town
- running0
Is there much anti-Americanism in Europe these days?
- Anti-conservative American, yes. Americans who choose to travel and live abroad have a good time of it.Continuity
- ukit0
^ Google Streetview is awesome. Turning every city into a game of Doom.
- iCanHazNTC0
Ik ben te verhuizen! Ik weet alleen niet wanneer, maar ik ben echt enthousiast over een deel van de informatie in deze thread.
- Translation: I'm moving! I just do not know when, but I'm really excited about some of the information in this thread.ethandmarquis
- ethandmarquis0
Dat is geweldig, maar waarom je niet schrijven in het Engels voor de anderen??
- Sorry, because I felt that my comment was not particularly valuable so it didn't matter?iCanHazNTC
- LOL.ethandmarquis