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- thebottlerocket0
" i dont want to because is my process and I dont feel like I should provide him with all my layers of work as i am sure he will use them to produce other works out of it!!!"
There's a reason there......
I look forward to the thread a few months time 'i got screwed by a client'. Perhaps you should read the warning signs here, if the client is already getting unpaid for photo sessions and is already arguing over the delivery of source files, then as a business, is it cost effective doing work with this organisation?
- stewdio0
If you have any misgivings then don't do it. (You're certainly not required to and this sounds like a bad client anyway; what with the unpaid photo session work...) Only in rare cases have I ever handed over source files and that's only been with clients that I really enjoy working with / have trust and respect for.
What is it that this client does? You might be able to use that in your argument. For example if they were a record company you might say, "When I purchase one of your records do I also get the source tracks so I can do my own remixes?" Something in that vein...
- thebottlerocket0
Anaolgies can sometimes back-fire and I have never been a fan of them.
What I am fan of is open and clear communication which frames the relationship between design studio and client which sees each party very upfront about the benefits of the relationship and what each party is getting out of it.
In that environment, saying 'Our source files are the intellectual property which you could use to produce additional work without paying a fee' That said, there should be no issue in supplying the raw design artifacts such as type, photography and illustration (depending in licensing from the various suppliers).
A conversation like that at least makes it clear where design sits in the production(i.e. the thinking, process and manufacturing) of their material and shows them what it is they're actually paying for.
- wish there was an edit function...whole sentence missed there...thebottlerocket
- ORAZAL0
And if you end up giving them the source files just flatten the layers.
- LOLdasmeteor
- do thatgeorgesIII
- do that +1jamble
- cuz that's how you rollMilan
- its_only_me0
A magician doesnt reveal his tricks.
- valentim0
thanks for your support....
- Continuity0
The bottom line is that when you do business with anyone, you get the end product; you can't buy or get their processes along with it.
You don't get a recipe for a takeaway pizza with the pizza, you don't get a pattern for a particular shirt you buy, you don't get the schematics for your new mouse along with the mouse. Design, advertising and related work is the very same thing.
It doesn't matter that it's a service, rather than a manufactured product. And if the client can't get that through their heads, you need to bail, and bail fast.
- airey0
give them a modified psd, flatten some of the layers so they get something that allows some wiggle room of modification but fuck all really.
besides, they won't have a first clue what to do with them anyway. they'll open them and suddenly realise there's not some magical 'do my work for me filter / button' and either come back to you or go fuck themselves.
- yeah that sound good, but i´d rather these clients to understand the procedures!valentim
- PIZZA0
"You don't get a recipe for a takeaway pizza with the pizza, you don't get a pattern for a particular shirt you buy, you don't get the schematics for your new mouse along with the mouse."
OH GOD ENOUGH OF SHIT ANALOGIES- Don't shoot the messengerORAZAL
- Yes analogies are shit but, unfortunately, sometimes it's what these sorts of 'clients' only understand.Continuity
- meffid0
...pics?
- georgesIII0
You don't turn over a condom and re-use it!
- HAHAHAHAHAHAContinuity
- Good one. I would tell the client "that would be like giving you a used condom".ORAZAL