Sticking with Flash
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- SteveJobs0
^ "Your browser doesn't support canvas, if you are using IE then the older version will likely work. I suggest you download a standards compliant browser such as Opera."
yeah, bye bye...
- utopian0
These HTML5 games rock, bye bye Flash!
- DrBombay0
If this is any representation, Canvas has a looooong way to go before replacing Flash
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- DrBombay0
Steve Jobs controls many people's minds. No one was talking about getting rid of Flash 6 months ago. Jobs says something and motherfuckers toe the line.
- DrBombay0
Isn't html5 just going to be able to embed new content? It isn't like you are going to script animations/rich interactivity in it. That is all done with javascript and jquery and shit, right? This stuff has a loooooooooong way to go before "replacing" flash. Or am I missing something?
- ukit0
Perhaps Adobe should focus more on creating great HTML5 tools for the future, and less on criticizing Apple for leaving the past behind.
- utopian0
Sup.
- satan0
I'm sticking with flash
and I don't care about your ash
- jayoh0
Flash lost most of it's appeal to me when they brought out ActionScript 3. It suddenly became a developers app, not the designers app they originally created and drew me to use it.
That and with all the web technologies that are around now that were not when I started to use Flash. Most Flash sites I see could be done better with HTML, CSS and some JQuery / AJAX stuff.
Saying that, there are some incredible Flash sites, but they are in the minority...and becoming somewhat inaccessible :)- i don't see a reason to get rid of it here. not that that's the point you were trying to make.SteveJobs
- If you don't like Flash/AS3 because it's a developers platform, you can't defend JQery/AJAX, etc.CyBrain
- yep, good point cybrain,
most of thekill flash crowd, aren't dev, I would even dare to say they aren't even designersgeorgesIII - agree, i'm a fan of the flash aesthetic - mostly IDE/ timeline.kingsteven
- Adobe should introduce a free/ lite version of the IDE which publishes swfs with runtime processor limitationskingsteven
- get flash content back on forums/ cash in on the millennial content creators.kingsteven
- it's mostly nielson's fault.kingsteven
- twokids0
Adobe just needs to get flash working well on mobile devices. Apple will cave if they do that.
- DrBombay0
It is funny to me that people are so quick to want to kill flash. Seems like it is mostly fanboys though.
- Jobs said no flash, so they must be against it too.DrBombay
- mostly people that don't use flash I'd say.dbloc
- plenty of good reasons to kill flash. ignoring them cos you don't like them doesn't mean it's not there.kpl
- specifically, flash player.kpl
- < fanboyhotroddy
- Something tells me you don't know as3...DrBombay
- SteveJobs0
oooowwww, you rike frash arrec bodwin? you rike frash?
- dbloc0
just tried out cloudBrowse...it's actually works amazingly well.
- ukit0
Naw, I think it's more of a cost issue for them. The only thing they would need to support would be Flash on desktop vs HTML5 on mobile (and YouTube, Vimeo and most other big video sites do that with no problem). They just don't want to spend the funds on reencoding the video. Or there might even be an alliance with HP or other Apple competitors, although that's just speculation on my part.
- you forgot that generally media companies are so fearful that they can't make any logical decisions on digital media at all.kpl
- Yeah, I wouldn't exactly take Time Warner's decisions as the sign of where things are heading.ukit
- Remind me, does AOL still own them or do they own AOL or how did that whole thing shake out?:)ukit
- aol spun out. Or is it Aol. spun out?kpl
- munch0
Flash is currently the only way to offer browser compatibility for these networks. If they moved to HTML5 then what video format would they use? H.264 is not supported by Firefox and I'm not sure it is in current versions of IE either. Also how would they protect the videos and integrate interactive advertising?
- CyBrain0
I found that some Flash runs ok, some doesn't, but I can't imagine someone thinking they'd rather see a blue plug-in icon instead of slow Flash. Also, if you're targeting phones, I'm sure you could go easy on the processor intensive stuff and get something that would play well on the phone.
- CyBrain0
I have Cloud Browse and was tempted to post it here, but was paranoid that if it got too popular Apple would kill it. I don't know what amazes me more, that Apple approved it or that it isn't well known yet.
I would pay $10 gladly if the paid version was a good browser (aside from playing Flash). The free version can't bookmark, doesn't even remember what windows you had open and doesn't support any Firefox add-ons. I know add-ons is asking a lot, but I would like some way to bookmark and auto-fill forms.
- erikjonsson0
zzz