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- eieio0
You forget that Jesus Christ was a man princple not blind faith. Archeology didn't exist when the Bible, the first one that lays out how the earth was created, so they had nothing to go by and didn't consider it a dogma until the scientific institution squared off against the various theological institutions like 400 years ago then all of a sudden this belief was brought into question and the shit hit the fan. It doesn't negate the true message of Christianity that is still around a relevant.
- If some of it it is a lie, then all of it is a lie.Mimio
- if Jesus WAS a Jew, why did he create a different cult and call it Christian? sounds like Jesus has no principle.robotron3k
- you don't know what I'm saying. Some of it was inaccurate because it was ancient, but most of it has nothing to do with the origin of the world.eieio
- ...with the origin of the world. It has everything to do with life style and morality.eieio
- In fact, the problem is religion structure and not faith itselfSalarrue
- Jesus did not create a cult and call it Christian. He was killed by the religious.SunSunSun
- cannonball19780
Reminds me of the allegory of the cave.
Pretty soon people will be like "So you reeeealy believe that there was this huge explosion and then everything came into existence? Really?"
- BaskerviIle0
I thought christians (the ones who take the bible as truth) thought the earth was 6000 years old.
Jesus was only supposed to have been born 2010 years ago- The bible narrative starts just before the beginning of the bronze ageSalarrue
- MarleyMarl0
You should have just titled this thread "Dear Gramme".
- 762mm0
the Bible should have a disclaimer in the front saying 'This is fiction.'
- ephix0
scarabin, did you finally find some acid? :P
- SunSunSun0
I'm not religious, but this doesn't in any way deny the existence of God. The more I learn about the world and how perfectly and completely everything fits together and how mind-bogglingly huge the universe is, the more I am in awe of the energy and life force that holds us together. Science to me confirms the existence of a God-like force. Call it whatever you want.
It's pointless to judge Christians or any other peace loving religions - I know there are nauseating specimens - but I have researched a lot of religions and it seems weird to me that Jesus (there is non-religious proof that he existed) is the one everyone decides to pick on when he was the least judgmental and actually one of the wisest and most loving of teachers that I've read about.
Sorry about the ranty nature of this. It's just something I've been thinking about a lot lately with all the Jesus bashing going on...
- peace loving. you have to read the bible, you got violence, incest, war, killing, more like Perverted Xtiansrobotron3k
- It's ok to be judgmental on this issue.Mimio
- I have read the bible - have you? God is always described as total love.SunSunSun
- no he isn'tscarabin
- he's vengeful and wrathful and murderous in more than a few partsscarabin
- God is an analogy for our physical sun. the bible is like the Farmers Almanac for planting crops.robotron3k
- Yeah, you're right he is described with different emotions, but they are caused by humans turning away from him.SunSunSun
- him...SunSunSun
- old testament vs new.inteliboy
- cannonball19780
Anyone with a brain knows that the world was created 3000 years ago.
- robotron3k0
If Xtians were ever peaceful people they might not get so much flack in believing in a Superman in the sky, but as a whole, both the bible and the cult a war mongers. And nobody likes war mongers.
- Salarrue0
personally as Christian I see that is a small part of extremists that believe that, sadly they are Americans so often they publish videos and make a big deal about it... and besides that, any source of information should be questioned. There is no guarantee in anything beside your personal experience... so, only because discovery says something you accept it without questioning?
- Not a small percentage at all actually.Mimio
- it isSalarrue
- i'm basing my beliefs on personal experiences from living men who can show proofs, not outrageous, superstitious hearsay from people who have been dead for thousands of yearsscarabin
- people who have been dead thousands of yearsscarabin
- you rely and trust in other person experience and knowledgeSalarrue
- Salarrue, you're mistaken: http://www.straightd…Mimio
- all things i can learn and experience myself. yours... not so much. which is why you rely on "faith"– the miraculous ability of humans to believe in something they have no proof forscarabin
- of humans to believe in something they have no proof ofscarabin
- dude I´m not from the US, and I don´t think they represent the christian faith at all.Salarrue
- Those statistics don't rely on what you think.Mimio
- @scarabin, have you really tried to experience Christian faith or you just repeat what everyone else says about it?Salarrue
- how far you were to prove something? you just google itSalarrue
- duckofrubber0
Your premise is flawed and unfair. This is actually quite easy for modern-day rational people of christian faith to reconcile as true. Most do not believe the bible to be historic fact, but rather a guide for living well. It's the small, yet LOUD, minority of crazies that don't get it. In fact, some of the loudest DO get it, but they make tons of money being loud, so...
To me, the real issue to question is the idea of an anthropomorphic god in the first place. I believe in energy as proof of existence; not aliens, zombies, or other man-made explanations for the great unknowable universe.
- the problem is that you take some to be historical fact and some you ignore...it's ridiculousmonospaced
- By 'you' I hope you don't mean me. I'm not defending the christian religion (or any religion), just think the argument flawed.duckofrubber
- is unfair to the many non-crazies out there who actually can reconcile science with a christian concept of god.duckofrubber
- ephix0
scarabin, cannonball1978's post above is right. i'm from a christian family even though i am not one. but think dude, its now 2010. thats after the so called death of jesus. jesus isn't adam.
- cannonball19780
Although I agree that Christianity is largely made up of huge chunks of semi-interesting fiction, this thread is full of idiotic assumptions about people who worship Christ.
- HAHAHAHAHA. We're the idiots for NOT believing this shit!? Fuck it.monospaced
- eieio0
I don't think Christians hold the 'world is 2000 years old' as a real tenant of their faith. They hold the life/death and teaching of Jesus Christ as described in the New Testament as something to live up to. That the world was created, by God, in 7 days a few thousand years ago is an OLD Testament thing and all you're doing is combining it with the fact that with the unrealted fact that Jesus was believed to have lived 2000 years ago. No Christian in the world say the world started when Jesus was born so you are fundamentally incorrect, you make false assumptions so therefore false conclusions.
- fxone0
- hahascarabin
- Jesus went to Egypteieio
- ..and ate a falafele-pill
- just ask gramme, those pyramids are only 600 years oldmonospaced
- robotron3k0
- YES! I was just about to look for this clip to post. RIPelahon
- ukit0
What goes through their head is "does not compute! quick - molest more 12 year old boys!"