New compact SLR
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- Hombre_Lobo0
I think ive narrowed it down to the Lumix LX3, canon G9, G10, and G11.
The G series lack video, but how good is the video on the LX3? hmmThe focal length on the Lx3 (60mm, 2.5 optical) isn't as great as the G10/11 (120mm, 5 optical) either.
But ive yet to see examples of the focal lengths in action, know of any?
Is the wide angle really that useful on the LX3? cant you achieve the same results by stitching and panoramas on the g9/10/11?The G10 has 35mm over the G9 - 28mm - but what does this actually mean in the real world?
more of a wide angle shot? again i cant find examples!- G11 has video... not HD tho.
Sample: http://vimeo.com/849…
zarkonite
- G11 has video... not HD tho.
- sequoia0
- useful, thanksjaylarson
- <+1DoktorDavid
- doesn't show distance for relativity thoughversion3
- Hombre_Lobo0
FINAL VERDICT -
Went down to jacobs in town which had all three in stock!
Lumix Lx3, Canon s90 and the canon g11-First off the the s90 is too small for me, doesn't feel like a performance camera, it takes great shots though.
The LX3, produces nice photos, wide angle is good but your not losing that much on the sides when using a G10 or G11. If you want a wider shot with the G10/11 you step back 2 feet and you get the same in as you would with Lx3, then crop accordingly, or you can take two images and stitch them together.The Lx3 in hand didnt feel all that nice, again like the s90 it felt too small, i have average size hands too. The G10/11 in hand however felt much better, obviously its a lot bigger than the LX3 but it has so many more dials and buttons for quick functionality. The Lx3 joystick also didnt feel too good, just not that nice and smooth.
The G10/11 just felt like a proper camera, the other two felt like compacts, which clearly is intended, but for me i wanted a more serious SLR wannabe. The size of the G10/11 isnt that big either, i can see myself happily taking it around in my bag just for the odd snap or taking it around with me on on holiday as well as taking it on dedicated photo days. With the LX3 and the S90, i couldnt imagine myself taking out for intended photo days, it just didnt feel like that sort of camera.
G10/G11 it is!!! :D
- You could get a fisheye or wide angle lens to mount on your G11 if you need to as well.zarkonite
- ok_not_ok0
Panasonic just announceds the LX4, it's shipping tomorrow.
- FUCK OFF.Hombre_Lobo
- lol!ok_not_ok
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- johndiggity0
- deffo take KR's words with a grain of salt or two.jaylarson
- previous0
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- Hombre_Lobo0
lol.
The s90 is an AMAZING little cam, absolutely incredible photos for something so compact, in low light too, great sensor. Same sensor as the G11.
The zoom on the LX3 was just terrible. 2.5 is almost pointless.
G11 is amazing, better lens than the s90 and lots of manual controls.
Without going into the high expenses of the Lumix GF1, Olympus EP-1 and that type of high end SLR component / Micro four third range of cameras, the G11 is the best thing in my eyes.
But is the G11 worth the extra cash of the G10???
- Do not buy the fucking G10 - Canon fucked this up - if you interested in video the LX3 is a better buyDoktorDavid
- sequoia0
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/…
I'd say get the G10.
Cameras are just like cars. This years model will cost you more even if it's no better than last years.
- sequoia0
then take the money you save and get a nice camera bag or nice compact tripod
- version30
it shoots RAW!, listen to the sequoia. it is wise and knowledgeable
- flashbender0
the girlfriend just bought a lumix fz38, it is pretty nice - £300
no lenses though - just a 18x zoom lens.
Compact and super light
- niiice, but for my purposes it isnt quite high enough performanceHombre_Lobo
- yeah, not really a SLR, ignore this. It is a nice little camera thoughflashbender
- Hombre_Lobo0
thanks version3 but yeh i think the size is important
Sequoia i do thin your right, the G11 isnt that much better than the G10 but i see this -
http://luminous-landscape.com/fo…
and think, another iso range with low level noise would be v nice...- By Canon's own admission, they fucked up with the G10 - G11 is the "we fucked up" replacement...DoktorDavid
- version30
i see it as this; accessibility.
i have a 5d with a battery grip, flash, two hand straps, clip on polypropylene strap, an angle finder, and a backpack full of lenses. not the camera for an evening with the girlfriend where you may get dinner and walk around, i get it.
but i also have a 400d and 2 cheap plastic lenses that fit in her purse or over my shoulder under my jacket and while yes still significant and not a pocket camera, it is very durable and easy to use with presets in case strangers are taking your picture with it.
it will work better i believe to achieve the results you expect with room to grow later.
i speak from experience having first purchased and started in 1998 with an olympus 640x480 point and shoot then a sony dsc or whatever pocket cam then another more advanced olympus pocket cam with more features/options and lens attachments. then i got my 350d and received more compliments than ever, sold that then got a 30d for control and started earning some money, then i sold that now i have a 5d i rarely use unless its for money and i'm not even a photographer, so in anticipation of an upcoming trip, i have purchased the 400d and appreciate its size:capability ratio and am sure i will get more use out of it than the 5d as i will need to know i want to go "photograph" some things to get that out
- Hombre_Lobo0
version3, that is extremely helpful, particularly with the real life application you've mention when your not intentionally going out to photograph some stuff...
Why did you have to put fear and doubt in my mind!?! im indecisive enough as it is!! Thanks though mate, i might have to check out the size of the 350d and 400d at my camera shop and report back!
Heres an album of some photos Ive taken if your interested, on my compact and a friends compact, extreme amateur, but its fun.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/466…- photos look great for a compact!Samush
- good stuffs, much processing?version3
- only a tiny bit of processing, contrast saturation. dont like to do too much, ruins it.Hombre_Lobo
- Smush is was a Nikon coolpix s1, and another but i forget.Hombre_Lobo
- version30
it's not meant to be fear and doubt, just my observation. i don't want you to sell them short.
i am personally against flashes especially built in flashes, always with that obvious awkward shadow and flat expressions on everyone's faces, but that's what you get in low light situations with a pocket cam. get yourself a low aperture lens and start to appreciate how your photography starts to resemble what you see and remember
- Hombre_Lobo0
hahaha amazing!
- DoktorDavid0
Assuming you haven't dropped your load yet and that you are committed to a P&S as opposed to a DSLR - the LX3, with comparable image specs as the G11 (including CS4 read-able RAW format) and HD video capability (G11 is only 640x480) wins hands down. The fact you have to use a lens cap is a drag, but replacing that versus replacing a scratched lens when shit gets stuck in the telescoping scissors of the G11, a minor inconvenience.