New compact SLR

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  • Hombre_Lobo0

    Well david!!
    Ive researched both in depth and ive found that the video quality of the LX3 to be very disappointing. Vital stats! -

    LX3 -1280x720, 24fps
    G11 - 640x480 at 30 fps, H.264 codec, 10Mbps bitrate

    Sure the LX3 is HD video, but its jerky and not very pleasant to watch. The video on the G11 looks very smooth and very high quality, even when upscaled. dont be let the pixels put you off of the G11 video, it has a great H.264 codec and the main reason i think it looks better than the HD Lx3 footage is because its super high quality 10Mbps bitrate!

    Sample videos found here -
    LX3 - http://www.photographyblog.com/r…
    G11 - http://www.photographyblog.com/r…

    Judge for yourself, but to me the G11 looks so much smoother/

    So what the LX3 remains to have over the G11 is the wide angle lens. I dont think its all that great, put next to the G11 you take 2 steps back with the G11 and you have the amount of view as the wide angle.

    The zoom on the LX3 is almost pointless, 2.5 optical. where as the G11 has 5xoptical zoom.

    Then onto image quality, the G11 surpasses the LX3 very easily - http://www.ephotozine.com/articl…

    the G11 suffers less noise by a large amount. So the only thing the LX3 has on the G11 to me, is the size. Also i found the joystick on the LX3 horrible to use.

    Thanks for letting me know though dude, appreciate the info!

  • DoktorDavid0

    Hombre/dude... Good for you to do the research - full disclosure, I use Canon equipment when I'm on the "money making" side of the house.

    I, of course, was talking about my own, personal experience. Both of the "Conclusion" sections on the web site you cited actually gave a higher review to the LX3. As for the video, well, comparing 1.78:1 to 1.33:1 is all apples to oranges. And comparing indoor versus outdoor, with the camera moving versus objects moving in the scene - you can understand my skepticism.

    When my original G9 got munched the reason I didn't jump to first the G10 (and then the G11) was that Canon made a mistake with the G10 (still image performance was an order of magnitude worse than my G9) and they started to take features away (to protect video production with 5D Mk.II and the eventual 7D). All without reducing the price. That stank as far as I am concerned.

    Regardless, was trying to give you some actual real world experience. Good luck with your decision.

  • Hombre_Lobo0

    Cheers Doc! thanks again for the help.
    If they are the reasons "(to protect video production with 5D Mk.II and the eventual 7D)" i would agree, that does stink massively.

    How did your G9 get munched?? hungry hungry hippos?!! :D

    Part of me thinks the extra £200 for a GF1 or EP-1 might be a more worthy future proof investment, what do you think? they are better cams thats for sure.

  • DoktorDavid0

    My original G9 first got a scratch on the lens from a hunk of dirt getting caught up in the scissoring closure (that was a pain, but not hard to fix via Healing) and then, while merrily shooting some time lapse photography it fell off my balcony - and went sixteen stories down = many, many pieces. I thank my lucky stars it did not kill anyone. I did buy a used one last summer in NYC - primarily for the built in time lapse, one of that camera's best features. I shoot one of those a week if not more (and with far more secure bungee cording).

    Cannot really comment on the micro/4/3 movement; never owned one so no real world experience. Of course, assuming I had endless cash, I'd buy a Leica M9, as a lens interchangeable compact, but man, that is a lot of money.

    Good luck!