Crispin Porter + Bogusky
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- whitewolf0
I applied to the Boulder office and got the gig at the Miami office. Trying to convince to switch me to Boulder if I accept, but it sounds like it's all filled up.
I just visited Vancouver, live in the mountains of NC, and the thought of Miami for the winter makes me want to cry, especially since I got out the snowboard this weekend.
I'm about a year out of school, worked at an agency, saved up, then got a gig filming and living in a village in Sudan, got back a few months ago.
So, there isn't much risk involved for me. Think I would have a blast. And will be making the same $$ as these crappy freelance clients who dont pay on time.
- Crappy freelance clients??? Mine always pay within 8 months!supersalzman
- must be nice!OSFA
- new_cpmwww0
meat. grinder.
- whitewolf0
ok lets put it this way.
Vector Marketing (cutco knives)
or C P + B?
- MisterPants0
I interned @ CP+B. For me, it was a pretty great experience.
My ultimate advice is that you will get out of your experience exactly what you put into it.
I'm still @ the
- agency.MisterPants
- did you put cock in then?BIGGESTDOGINTHEWORLD
- OSFA0
Had a friend, sweetest girl, that worked/interned there and she had nothing but bad experiences and things to tell. All the seniors were arrogant pricks, juniors and youngsters were too busy trying to be cool and she had no life on weekends or nights since she would be called to work at random hours. Mind you, this is the Miami office... she also mentioned the real work is done up in CO...
- Ha, we probably know some of the same people.harlequino
- ;)OSFA
- vaxorcist0
...well, if you put it that way.. Slices! Dices! Order by Midnight Tonight! (70's Ronco Ads come to mind) ..... but seriously, I'd apply and check the gut feeling you get from the actual people at CP+B who you meet and your tolerance for the possibiity of being low on the totem pole surrounded by egos while grinding out print ads from a template....
sometimes great folio and sane environment are opposites.... but good folio often comes from a small agency, or a renegade campaign from a big one, usually done for a pro-bono client....
Seriously these days, I'm not so sure CP+B on the resume has the same heft it did in the past?
- OSFA0
Quick question... how long is one supposed to intern? I met a guy that was an intern there for almost a year or more... I mean wtf! do they get paid?
- interns get paid yesversion3
- but they have to share a glockharlequino
- haha sorry if it seemed like a stupid question but I know some places dont pay shit... besides screw you v3! ;)OSFA
- CyBrain0
I know they do great work, but I couldn't "stomach" working on Burger King where the creative brief must say: "Get the dumbest Americans even fatter."
- fate_0
You also have to ask yourself if you want to work at an advertising agency when the world is increasingly turning away from traditional advertising. By the end, your portfolio is going to be mainly full of ads.
- janne760
my best work experiences were at the smallest unknown (aka "not famous") agencies. still interesting projects, but minus the ego's and "kids bein' kewl"-rubbish...
all the big agencies with name are like that.
- janne760
fate_:
"the world is increasingly turning away from traditional advertising"that is interesting. source? i'd love this use this fact with clients.. :)
- fate_0
janne, and a smaller shop actually gives you the opportunity to leave your mark, make your accomplishments visible. That's next to impossible in a big agency.
That's how Bogusky started out, he was a designer that rose to AD in a small little shop in Florida called Crispin Porter.
- vaxorcist0
My best experiences were in small agencies run by renegades and refugees who left big agencies and have a clear memory to not repeat the bad side of that world..... but they do know how to work with clients ....
I agree, the "smarty-humor" ads are what folio schools teach, and what agencies seem to want to see in a book, but are rapidly declining in the actual business....
- fate_0
Janne: The increasing fragmentation of cable television (your viewers are scattered), the rise of Tivo (they skip your ads), contrasted with the ever increasing ad buy costs (it's expensive to buy).
The slow death of print publications, again thanks to fragmentation and oversaturation (Conde Nast, et. al.)
The fact that Generation Y spend more time on computers than they do watching television. The availability of alternate media.
There's a reason digital advertising dollars spent actually grew during the recession. Traditional venues are too expensive and too ineffective.
- fate_0
The 30 second spot isn't going anywhere for a while, but it's still an outdated concept. Broadcasting is the past.
- Wouldn't entirely agree with that. I think we will just see it integrated in different channels.harlequino
- Broadcasting still has a role, but it won't be as the centerpiece of marketing it used to be.fate_
- I agree with Harlequinobabaganush
- OSFA0
Hmmm Alex Bogusky Resigns From MDC.
In recent years, the legendary creative exec had less input at holding company's flagship agency Crispin Porter + Bogusky...
- fate_0
janne: last thing I'll say about it. Many consumers never come into contact with a traditional ad "message" (like a tv ad or a print ad). They'll be online, searching Amazon. Or they'll be wandering through a retail store.
So their first experiences with a brand will often be the design of the product. The packaging when they see it in the store, the company's website, and the aesthetics of the product itself. So the design aspect of a product has to, and is, taking on an increased role in helping sell those products.
It's a bit common sense, but that little rant places the rise of design's importance within a bigger context, against the decline of advertising. That's why more money is shifting towards design spending.
- good reasoning. cheers. if you got any links to more articles covering this, i'd appreciate!janne76