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- monospaced0
I've thought about this. Chill, nobody will deny that you were the original designer. You brought it this far.
- zenmasterfoo0
Maybe take a different tact on this. Ask if you can participate on the project still in a different capacity. Maybe just to communicate with him about the next set of changes he's proposing. Be political in your choice of words. He's obviously taking credit for the project. You can't stop that. But you can possibly still remain as a voice in it's direction.
You need to stand up for your work at the end of the day. He or any other CD will never respect you unless you take a firm stand on the designs you provide. If you think his modifications are shit, ask why the client chose to go that route. Question his designing as he questions yours.
- i_monk0
I was brought on to finish a logo for a client that had exasperated everyone senior to me, including the art director and two senior designers (I wasn't even jr, I was production). Sat there with the client, with illustrator projected on the wall for them to see, gave them my honest feedback on what they had so far and what they were asking for, and finished it off for them.
It looked like shit, but that reflects who they were as a client (they were dropped after this).
- svenreed0
ill post the work once legally allowed, both before and after...you guys rock
- vaxorcist0
There is a chance this isn't about you and the CD at all....
The CD may have found out at the last minute that the client totally hates the color green, or something random like that, and the CD has to rebuild it all in order to save the business, maybe he can't communicate to you the clients random freakout because he doesn't want to make you cynical...... not fun, but this also happens.... in part due to account staff not warning creatives about client personality quirks....
- svenreed0
vax - i hear what your saying but i don't believe thats the case. the last conversation i had had with him was to let me know that versions X and Y were the favorites and were going to be hammered down further. i really think its based around him attempting to stamp the final mark. i could be completely wrong, however if that were the case his communication skills are rather weak.
- rascuache0
This happened quite a bit in my previous job, I never really took it that personally, it was either pulled from me because I was needed on something else, or because as above, it was easier for him to do it having spoken to the client directly, rather than relay it all to me and risk miscommunication or misinterpretation costing more time.
If I were a dick I'd say: Suck it up, it's part of the job, but I'm not, so I say: I appreciate how frustrating it is, but you've probably gotta just accept it and try not to take it personally.
- svenreed0
we have those crazy toilets with no upper decker-area. haha
- flashbender0
or tell th e CD
"When you tell me I can't do something, it just makes me want to do it more."
Apparently it works for black country music singers.
- Milan0
poor wife didn't do anything to deserve this
- d_rek0
Shit on his shit.
- baseline_shift0
One good thing to do is approach your CD after the project has run its course, and ask him about how the logo finished up. Be real professional, and say its for your own understanding and 'growth potential'.
As long as you make sure it doesnt come off as a pride thing, and id bet he will explain to you why he had to take control of it at the last second. Be it client end, or your own shortcomings, it will be a better resolution to the situation to know how it actually went down.
- nicole_marie0
the last place i worked, the senior designer did that to me constantly... i quit.
- svenreed0
yet its turning out just as ugly as imagined.
- oh nos! what happened?zenmasterfoo
- strokes and strokes and strokes!!!svenreed
- AngryMob0
Start a thread here about the CD and call him a twat.
- orangecrunch0
I THINK WE ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS LOGO. It will make this conversation oh so much more interesting.
- svenreed0
i can't post it because of our contract. so no names yet until the relationship drops. sorry
- orangecrunch0
is this a logo you really care about or is it the principle.
- cannonball19780
The reason is probably because you don't ask why. Happens to pushovers.
- your a fucking idiotsvenreed
- really. how so.cannonball1978
- for starters, you're kicking a man when he's down, cannonballbigtrick
- "Hey, why did you take me off at the last minute?" See? Not so hard.cannonball1978