joshua davis bashing by CR
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- DuhDuhDuh0
My two cents here, and I aint "hatin", I have significant respect for JD, shit, I learned how to program a real nice scrollbar class from his samples forever ago, but I wanted to comment on this part.
JD >> "maybe I've got it all wrong... but I thought working toward an identifiable visual style was something you wanted to achieve."
To clear the confusion (and you are wrong unless your intent here was to define yourself an an artist and not a designer), an artist, wants to achieve an identifiable style, most definitely, it helps with "identification" – a designer does not, it tends to leave room for the "concept". I just think you are an artist is all, especially if you are working 6 months in advance of a real job, and while I realize you deal with client issues, and tailor your work to fit their needs, it's still art at the end of the day, and not so much design.
That's an ok place to be though, and why not, Carson was a stylist, and an artist, and he killed print, maybe you killed the web?
- why the new account? show yourself!digdre
- This is NOEIS cos he repeated what NOEIS said.Khurram
- Yup, it's me, YOU GOT ME< OH NO!NONEIS
- who is NOEISRand
- You also outed yourself as a bigger troll for having read every single comment on every single post :DNONEIS
- Each designers have their own style.MrDinky
- who is NONEIS?neue75_bold
- exactly, usually called an 'approach'neue75_bold
- I recognize that name.juhls
- Yes Dinky, but the good ones try to resit the urge, JD, embraced his, that makes him an artist in my book.NONEIS
- Oh, i'm a HUGE troll. MASSIVE. Width of a coke can my son 8-)Khurram
- Embracing a style doesnt make you an artist. I am also an artist, my style is called crapworkMrDinky
- Well, considering how quickly you responded to my post "outing" me, i'd say 40 of OE.NONEIS
- not sure what that means?Khurram
- and by the way, i have ADD you insensitive arsehole!!Khurram
- So do I, *hug*NONEIS
- *hugz!!!!!******** fucking squirrels...Khurram
- iCanHazQBN0
Hey Josh, so how much ass do you really get being a big time desginer? Come on you can tell me.
- juhls0
I dig his art and the thought and process behind it.
- yeah but you were born in the eighties...neue75_bold
- Yeah, I'm not old...juhls
- lol.Corvo2
- Peter0
"Darn load skateboarding-, bubblegum-chewing- and hoola-loop swinging kids, gettatta maj front lawn!"
- __TM0
never mind, CR has posted his reply on their blog. Same link.
- instrmntl0
thats pretty funny
- francoisfido0
define 'art' you fucks.
- i did this a while ago, it was very good, i'll try and remember it.Khurram
- oh yeah - design is the medium, while art is the message in and of itself. Tada!Khurram
- bollocksfrancoisfido
- but why?Khurram
- Art is that which answers the question.Horp
- too reductive, like answering art as unicum, or self-expression.francoisfido
- That's not a valid argument to dismiss something cost its said in a few words.Khurram
- and what the fuck is unicum?Khurram
- masterbationMrDinky
- unicum: unique example, specimen
(as per dinky 1 post below)francoisfido - well that's even more preposterous then. You've taken random analogies to equate to what i saidKhurram
- here i would like to know where the 'art' resides in the work of joshua davis. 'process' alone is not art.francoisfido
- I'm not following your reductive argument. Would you prefer an essay on it? I'll try and get this in a longer wayusKhurram
- That's not what you asked. Anyway, so "Design is a conduit for a message once removed, whereas art stands as the message in its immediacy"Khurram
- message in its immediacy"Khurram
- I prefer my first answer. Design is how you present the information, art IS the information.Khurram
- that makes more sense. but my question was in relation to the way 'art' has been used here in re PrayStation.francoisfido
- i like your 2nd one much better,
art is also a medium.francoisfido - Art is not the medium. Design is the medium. Art is the message in and of itself. In its very artefact it is the messageKhurram
- This is why "originals" are sanctified. Because it is an artefact.Khurram
- i accept your theoretical definition of art, i hope you are happy. but like i tried to say, it's not what i was asking.francoisfido
- Shut the fuck up you bunch of whiners. this discussion never ends and only makes you look retarded.janne76
- utopian0
too many words to read
- hahah. reading is hard
flashbender - hahacalculator
- LOLZ.. book learnin is hard tooautoflavour
- hahah. reading is hard
- __TM0
there's several replies from Josh on the blog, lots of bashing going on from both sides. Slight timeline fail: all this happened last weekend
- Anders0
Joshua Davis... just a band
- utopian0
Shepard Fairey, Joshua Davis... same difference...
- < this makes on sense.airey
- or off sense?refunktion
- people you're jealous of?acescence
- yeah they are both rich and having a lot of funepigraph
- PrayStation0
iCanHazQBN nil... I think David Carson is the guy you need ping for that question. That guy is permanent Graphic Design Fame Booty Call.
- hahaukit
- Hahahahajevad
- David Carson? That guy who used to come on after Conan?iCanHazQBN
- No, the fool who used a photocopier and some really bad type and became a movement. Man.MrT
- He never heard of herpes?ceiling_cat
- I'll take that to mean "a lot"Rand
- MrDinky0
Well Nick
Art for me is something that one off. I have hard time thinking that photo as art.
- @ juhls, duh, dmullins
not you. you were the one who asked the question 9 posts up and 8 notes left.francoisfido - oh and at praystation specifically, though i asked him above and he failed to answer.francoisfido
- I left my answer buried in side comments :(dMullins
- @ juhls, duh, dmullins
- ukit0
David Carson is a jerk, and his haircut is wack.
There, I said it.
- deathboy0
i think ive seen the name a couple times but cant recall the work, must not be that important to me
- pascii0
i work in design for almost 12 years. and i was never ever interested soo much like some of you guys in the person behind a design i saw on the web or a magazine.
- chossy0
I have not seen anything other than weird melty clocks and dreams by dali, fucking one trick pony hack. He should have moved on like a motherfucker instead of conning all those people into liking something which he found joy in doing what a prick.
- kelpie0
sugaRAPE would consider JD well futile
- pascii0
there are two quotes i've heard:
"if i would always listen to what people tell about my work, i wouldn't be there where i am today"
and
"as soon as you start to think, you're an artist, you should quit your dayjob"