Close to Helvetica
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- Rand0
yesterday I drove past the giant construction graphics of the new Barnes Foundation by Tod Williams and Billie Tsien and realized once again that most of the modern sans are a bit too antiseptic for my tastes
- I've been trying desperately to find a nice 'modern serif' for an ident that I'm working on and for the life of me cannot findneue75_bold
- anything that I'm comfortable with..neue75_bold
- even pushing myself beyond my comfort zone still, I end up with benton..neue75_bold
- for the logo itself, or as the "corporate typeface"?Rand
- which is not something I'd build an identity..neue75_bold
- ha, yes, good editorial face, but for an identity/logo..neue75_bold
- neue, I totally know how you feel. Somehow Benton is still the best...jimbojones
- is is type only, or will it have a mark?Rand
- you do mean modern sans serif, right?jimbojones
- proposing both I reckon.. always kinda have to..neue75_bold
- yeah jim, modern sans..neue75_bold
- huh, that was ironic..neue75_bold
- have you given archer a test run yet?myoldredhat
- Have you tried BP Neutral? Not that neutral after all (+ construction errors...). Still trying to find a contemporary Trade Gothic substitute...jimbojones
- both Unica and Neutral have that frutigeresque uppercase "R" that drives me up the wall..neue75_bold
- ironically, if there's a decorative element, I often end up with Gotham all caps, spaced a bit, because it is so genericRand
- like a cleaner sackers gothicRand
- http://pentagram.com…Rand
- you mean, because it's so perfect right?myoldredhat
- I don't do all caps since I'm not in fashion...neue75_bold
- or hospitality..neue75_bold
- huh? Neutral's R has a straight leg, never was a fan of the curved one. Works for Univers thojimbojones
- does the company name have an uppercase R? if so, you're fuckedRand
- fuck you're right, just unica I'm thinking of..neue75_bold
- hahajimbojones
- but Neutral still isn't contemporary enough, or neutral enough... Don't like the spacing eitherjimbojones
- we're all fucked..neue75_bold
- slams HRand
- logos should be bannedRand
- contemporary sans = shit like Apex, neo sans, et al..neue75_bold
- apex and neo are out of fashion already :) Have you tried PF Encore?jimbojones
- klavika = shoot me nowneue75_bold
- or Plakat by Schwartz?jimbojones
- looks like a benton mashup...neue75_bold
- klavika is a great face, way too overused thoughjimbojones
- whitney, barf, seravek, barf, proxima nova...Rand
- whoa, used properly whitney outfucks trade any time! proxima = gotham for poor peoplejimbojones
- * sigh.. I hear ya jim, but these faces just aren't for me... but hey, this thread was never about me anyways, so..neue75_bold
- proxima = inbredneue75_bold
- ...let's start a new one!
gloriola would be fucking great with a better M btwjimbojones - glory hole? let me have a boo..neue75_bold
- utopian0
I am personally a Trade Gothic fan if I am not using Helvetica. ITC Franklin Gothic is nice as well...
- monospaced0
Frutiger is known as a friendlier sans.
- close to H?jimbojones
- Yes, of course. I wouldn't have recommended it if it wasn't.monospaced
- It's pretty different, but still a classic sans that is somewhat friendlier.monospaced
- but besides the sans nature and the cult status I can see very little similarities?jimbojones
- sorrymonospaced
- no problemjimbojones
- doctor0
Fedra is far from Helvetica, as goes for neutrality.
- Rand0
where is plakat? can't find
- jimbojones0
http://www.christianschwartz.com…
it was called plakat at some stage...- not availableRand
- looks goodRand
- available on rapidshare et al...jimbojones
- link?Rand
- blaw0
Bau is nice.
http://new.myfonts.com/fonts/fon…
- plusminusbox0
franklin gothic
- baseline_shift0
Din?
- ukit0
Maybe it's not all that close to Helvetica, but I've found Reader by Colophon to be a great sans for a number of uses.
- armed_rob0
- yeah, tried Avenir. But I think the kerning sucks.janne76
- wat?! Frutiger's fonts are pretty much the only ones with perfect kerning (you mean spacing btw)jimbojones
- Avenir Next is beautifully kerned. Don't really like the condensed versions, though.gramme
- jimbojones0
Neue75 will like this http://www.newrailalphabet.co.uk…
- Uppercase R sucksMau
- close to helvetica.
how are you doing mau?jimbojones - don't they always, just about?Rand
- NO! I've had my share of Rs that wowed me. Not the helvetica type thojimbojones
- Etype0
If anyone wants to send my knockout? or british rail... that would be great
- TheAnthonyWallace0
ive been using berthold akzidenz grotesk and gotham the past couple years for my bold sans text. really great fonts.
gotham seems to be the latest winner.
- 5timuli0
I'd like to give this one a try:
http://www.ascenderfonts.com/fon…Ascender Sans™ Family was designed by Steve Matteson as an innovative, refreshing sans serif design that is metrically compatible with Arial™. Ascender Sans Family offers improved on-screen readability characteristics and the pan-European WGL character set and solves the needs of developers looking for width-compatible fonts to address document portability across platforms. Character Set: Latin-1, WGL Pan-European (Eastern Europe, Cyrillic, Greek and Turkish).
- Etype0
there was some new faont i saw awhile back Nue something
- monospaced0
At one point I believe a lot of designers believed Meta to be the Helvetica killer. That didn't quite work out, but it is a decent friendly typeface.
I'm not sure how similar you're going to stay to Helvetica while getting much friendlier anyways. Good luck.