Flash is the thing here huh?
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- zarkonite0
All I did was ask you for an example... sheesh.
- thepda0
I'm not responding anymore because I am not trying to convert anyone. UNLIKE YOU GUYS! I have given plenty of solid examples, but I seem to be "wrong" about them all... So why would I continue on?
- its within your choice to deny reality. please carry on.Meeklo
- And make sure to repeat what you said here, at design/ development industry eventsMeeklo
- we fed you counter-points based on our experiences... I've read the entire thread, where are your examples?zarkonite
- You will make lots of friends and every would love to hire youMeeklo
- ********0
"BMW (the one client who still uses flash)"
have you actually looked around the internets? All major companies use it.
- it's best not to argue with him. he's already tossed all his toys out of the crib7point34
- itsmitch0
To answer the original question: I think companies/agencies are showing off "interactive" (Flash) work because they're impressive portfolio pieces. Clients are impressed when things animate, they see products in 3D, full HD video is used on a website, etc. It's classic SOS (shiny object syndrome.) The client has no idea what goes in to making a web standards compliant site render correctly cross-platform, the logic behind user experience and IA choice, why the site is 'accessible' or any other technical decisions. Clients tend to be visual, not logical. This is the same reason most coders show a screenshot of the site they worked on when they had nothing to do with the interface. If they put up a block of code the client wouldn't know what the hell they're looking at but if the client sees a website front-end then they judge that because the front-end looks nice the back-end must as well.
The other reason, I'm going to assume here, is that interactive (Flash) projects are fun to work on. As professionals, of course we're going to try to get more projects like the ones we enjoy. Not to mention there tends to be a premium price put on Flash work and so the agencies want more of that work to come in as well.
- thepda0
Okay, stop replying to this thread. Can I delete threads?
@morilla -- Please go back and look at the statements saying 3000 agencies competing for the same companies.
- you little bitchmonospaced
- See what happens when you open pandoras box with half baked tired old stereotypes?tommyo
- ukit0
There is no deleting. Whatever you say, lives on in eternity.
- hahaMeeklo
- only a little bitch would want to delete his own bitchy thread. bitchmonospaced
- ********0
anyway there isnt "one" answer as there isnt "the unique application" nor "the unique language".
- gabe0
my goal was merely to point out how little you seem know about the industry you work in. apparently, you didn't need my help to make that painfully obvious to everyone here.
as a person who makes his living in interactive design, it's frustrating when people make false claims and statements that have no truth or metrics behind them whatsoever. the last thing i want is you spouting that nonsense on top of the mountain for all to hear.
- Exactly, you make your living in the industry. So lets just beat him up until he gives in and makes me look cool! SCORE!thepda
- ********0
I did, it read
"hey will have 3000 agencies fighting over BMW (the one client who still uses flash)"
implying BMW is one of the only clients who use flash.
- Continue reading... I'm getting exhausted with someone who comes into the conversation last minute.thepda
- 69Meeklo
- I get exhausted with people that don't know shit about the biz.********
- The biz... hahaha, go back to 1985 you advertising fool.thepda
- oh jeez... you're one of those.********
- "I used to cut rubylith and do mechanicals by hand, bla bla bla"********
- designbot0
man, I got here too late.
*takes a seat
- ukit0
Will we get to 100?
- ********0
this is a retard thread
- ********0
now go jerk off to Simple Bits and your CSS.
- attentionspan0
cant belive i read through this thread
- kelpie0
I got about a page and a half through this and felt compelled to give my opinion.
As a good protestant, I agree with thepda, flash is frivolous, too colourful, too animated, and, frankly, a bad bloody influence.
- ********0
YOUR DUMB
- bad spellingkelpie
- dum has no bkelpie
- um...7point34
- haha kelpie, i hope this was supposed to be ironic7point34
- "dumB, dum-B" hehe, douchekelpie
- seriously, thepda used "your" instead of "you're" so many times he's come off as semi-retarded.monospaced
- tish! one is being ironical in a round about way...kelpie
- designbot0
Well okay...I'll give my two cents...
If Flash didn't play a significant role in web, than Microsoft would have never created SilverLight. It has it's place. I do about 99% web, and I know from experience it gives you so much more possibility when creating sites. Why would anyone be against a tool that allows you to do so much more with the web? Sure there are lots of cool/crazy/pointless flash sites out there, but this doesn't take away from the fact that it has many many practical and functional uses as well.
I didn't read through all the posts but what exactly is the argument here? That all sites should be done with CSS only?
- epikore0
Personally I think html, css, dhtml is a bit retarded. Why do I have to code something to be in place. In photoshop, do I have to code where every layer or box is? That's fucken retarded. I just draw that box, just like in flash. I don't code shit unless I want to make something more complicated. Pardon my language, we curse a lot here.
