crappy job market?
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- kezza_20
but I also might add, that talent is the main thing, I'm way more picky these days when hiring.
- BarryMcKockiner0
i'm more than willing to work at an interactive agency. problem is most the job posts are for Sr. Interactive Designers or they want 5-7 yrs experience. I know I will rock interactive given the chance to be around other creative digital artists.
- kezza_20
Loss leader?
Get a job in digital at any cost?
I have no idea where Corona is or indeed if it is a place :) but I can assure you everyone needs juniors. You will intrinsically know more about digital than a 35 year old because you're grown up with it.
Maybe another bit of advice is think about what you call yourself. You've said you're an art director on your portfolio. In advertising someone on a placement can be an art director, but in digital art director is 8 years experience.
you've called yourself an AD with 1 piece of work, think about perception. The tone is to be slightly deferential at the moment.
- I am 30++ and I was coding assembler on my Amiga 500 when I was 12 and calling bbs's on a phoneline... so I know webpistollero
- kezza_20
sorry also you're resume makes you come across as a studio guy. Which is fine, but if you were asking to be an AD it doesnt add up. Look at your portfolio, your background and how you describe it, and your expectations. I help hire across all our offices and I wouldn't look twice. sorry to be harsh, but Wales just beat us and I've had 4 stellas.
In this market you have t be so clear about what you are and where you may fit in.
Y&R are wicked, but maybe drop one job role from your CV. AD at Y&R will open doors, but if you've progessed form production artist, it maybe will be looked down upon.anyway its curry time. good luck.
- BarryMcKockiner0
thanks for the advice and I can take the harshness. Prod. artist was just my way into the agency. I knew I didn't want to stay there, but with no formal education and being self tought I did what I had to do. You really think the prod. artist on my CV is hurting me?
- yeah take it off man. Your resume will look stronger w/o it.mtgentry
- designbot0
I can tell things are slowing down a bit, but I have actually gotten several calls in last few months for jobs.....and there are plenty of designers better than me, so it must not be that bad :)
- akrokdesign0
chris, sign up for creative circle, etc.
i think orange country is more your target. isn't l.a a bit far from corona. hit up all the agencies, either with self promo or email.
- myoldredhat0
I disagree with the creative circle recommend.
They lied to me on two occasions about the terms contained in their contract and tried to rush me to sign it. I've also heard they fluff their posted job pay grades listed on other job sites. I also found the terms in their contract to be loosely defined which was suspect to interpretations.I just haven't heard of any respectable professional walk away with a positive impression of them.
I think you are much better off asking around and getting an individual head-hunter to work with vs. signing on with a recruitment agency that is that large.
- I should also add, that I did not sign on with them, I refused to sign the contract given their terms. So this isn't a salty impression because I was burned.myoldredhat
- BarryMcKockiner0
I would probably agree. My experience with the large temp agencies has been so so as well. But that is a worst case scenario for me if I cannot find any good headhunters anytime soon.
- itsmitch0
I've had terrible luck with large temp agencies. They keep trying to place me in jobs I'm not qualified for. I'm capable of basic HTML/CSS because I'm usually a print designer and they kept trying to force me in to Flash/Motion jobs. It was frustrating and a complete waste of time. Did they expect their customers to be happy when they got somebody who didn't know what the fuck they were doing?
- 5timuli0
Trying to adjust to an 80/20 web/print ias right now and it's a bitch. good move though. Lots of good knowledge on UX/UI.
- jfletcher0
I'm happy to have a job right now... even though I'm not really happy *with my job. It's just good to have one. My team isn't hiring, and few people are. A few of my friends were laid off and having a hard time.
Our temp agencies are having a tough time too, as temp worker contracts have been cut.
- radish0
I'm about to move to Los Angeles without a promised job. I know the market is bad, but I've been living with my parents in D.C. for a few months now, its time for a change, but can I afford it? im interested in motion. advice?
- Wait.myoldredhat
- I second that... not the time to set out and try new things. unless you absolutely have toBarryMcKockiner
- radish0
I'm about to move to Los Angeles without a promised job. I know the market is bad, but I've been living with my parents in D.C. for a few months now, its time for a change, but can I afford it? im interested in motion. advice?
- radish0
woops
- BarryMcKockiner0
I would move to santa monica area and try and get an into an internship. there are tons of motion houses up there. when this economy gets better though.
- radish0
Thanks! My buddy lives in Santa Clarita, (not far) I have a friend to stay with there for a month for just a couple bucks, to get on my feet. I think it'll be cool.
- dan100200z0
Just got this e-mail this morning:
Hi DanielWe appreciate the time and effort you took for your job application.
As of today, 16th February, we have received 98 applications.
We will be in touch with applicants re: interviews by the end of next week.
If you do not hear from us, we wish you the best for your future endeavors.
Regards,
- Wow, I see they are too busy to type full sentences. That kinda shit pisses me off.********
- Survival of the fitest!Leigh
- better than NO responsealicetheblue
- Wow, I see they are too busy to type full sentences. That kinda shit pisses me off.
- BarryMcKockiner0
Kinda sucks in a employers market... they do whatever they want and we are left to just sit and wait for them to never call. What burns me is the fact that so many employers are not even replying back or returning my phone calls. No love.
- Audria0
wow.. I can actually say, Im glad I have my teaching credentials to fall back on.