Pentagram Sucks...
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- fate_0
For all you wankers making the "perception is reality" argument, get the hell out of this thread. Reality is reality, and the reality is that most of their work is milquetoast...BORING.
No one cares how Pentagram pulled the wool over the clients eyes. That isn't respectable, nor a long-term strategy.
- magnificent_ruin0
hahaha, fate only turns up on qbn when there's a thread like this
- JSK0
The key to being a designing sales man / woman is.. that you can sell your perspective. If you cant sell it, the work becomes diluted, it is no longer your own.
- fate_0
threadpost is right! They didn't just have to make that logo! They had to present it to the client too! On a big piece of paper, no less!
Hell, they might have gone all out and projected it from a projector! The logo! The logo would have been HUGE! 6 foot tall across the whiteboard!
You just don't understand!
- I love the VOILA moment when the paper is flipped upmagnificent_ruin
- its bigger than the biggest logo there chief.threadpost
- morilla0
neither did I, but I don't think Scarlett Johansson is a cow because of it.
- skt0
i love threads like these.
- that's not true. i find them embarrassing.skt
- I love themmagnificent_ruin
- guilty pleasuresian00
- magnificent_ruin0
hey, he said he didn't get much sleep!
- threadpost0
thats it? their logos suck? and therefor pentagram sucks? something tells me you really just don't understand the full breadth of what a company like pentagram does and why they are so good at it.
you're basing your decision on your own purely aesthetic opinions, which mean very little unless you prove your own credibility. as in, why are you in a position to make such a blanket statement, what would you compare them to that "doesnt suck"? etc.- an opinion can be based on whatever they like, its just thier opinion....set
- lumedia0
just admit it, you applied for a job there, and got shot down...
- JSK0
moveinspace
This is how I see it from architectural perspective. An architect is not an architect with out clients. As per designer, if there are no clients, he / she is simply expressing art form through design.
Its the boundary of limits and rules the define a challenge. When the canvas is blank and no over sight, it lacks element of selling through. Without selling through, it is mainly an expression, not problem solving. Designers problem solve and sell. Not just make things look pretty or interesting for sake of self expression.
- the bigger and richer the client, the more boring their logo should be!magnificent_ruin
- I know plenty of designers and architects who aren't great salesman, so you can't sell me.moveinspace
- mcLeod0
this one is better.
http://www.hillmancurtis.com/ind…Paula Scher knows what she is talking about and her style certainly permeates through a lot of their more recent work. whether you are a fan of that style is another question. They are hit or miss for me but I would not disrespect them by saying they suck.
- arthur0
nice portfolio Amicus
- fate_0
- you just don't understand what it isdigdre
- This must be one of those "It's ok if you don't get it" moments...fate_
- But it looks like a pint of beer as seen from above.fate_
- with embedded secret messages for alcoholicsmagnificent_ruin
- "I killed her cat with my car after a night out at the pub"fate_
- digdre0
easy to say someone sucks.
- JSK0
There are no great designers, there are great sales man / woman, who happen to design.
- I disagree.moveinspace
- don't sell yourself short!magnificent_ruin
- magnificent_ruin0
I don't think it's been indexed yet
- moveinspace0
Yeah they have been around more than 30 years. That alone says something about their work.
- I did mention last 5 years... I know they have done stellar work in the pastAmicus
- here's the last 5 years at just the New York office then http://blog.pentagra…moveinspace
- doesnotexist0
I like the new coors one, at first I did hate it though.
- lvl_130
so far you are in the clear as far as google is concerned:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=…then again, i'm not sure how long it takes them to index qbn threads.
- dbloc0
- Yeah.. that circle emblem has been done similarly before... haven't been able to remember where as yetAmicus
- I agree this sucks. So does Ruby Tuesday.joeth
- What is not to love about that logo? The beer glass is reminiscent of the old Miller Moon logo, while overall it looks like an eye a la UBISoft.deldelesc
- like an eye a la UBISoft.deldelesc
- I see it half full.non
- don't like itTHA
- yeah this sucksLlyod