Pentagram Sucks...
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- lifterBARON0
I think the largest problem is that you hold them to too high of standards. They aren't like super human or necessarily better at life than any one of us. They just make shit for people who have bad taste. Sometimes, the shit they make looks like shit, other times.. you might be like; "oh, snap, that's kind of rad!" They aren't the end all be all, but neither is whoever you (all) might think is either n things.. >_<
- fate_0
That's a valid point, pepe. The kind of people who go to RubyTuesday or enjoy the NY Philharmonic are yuppie scum.
- pepe0
having worked with one of the partners in the past i think what makes them easy to hate is that they convey a sense of elitism and almost overly knowledgeable sense of graphic design, when in fact its not what you know about design but what you make. anyhow, their work is a tad safe but the market they target falls into that category as well.
- gramme0
Not everything they do is a grand slam, but I'd say the same about my own work, or anyone else for that matter. The majority of their work—from all of their offices—is well-considered and well-executed. I think of the Mohawk promotions Bierut's team did last year. Gorgeous stuff.
- in summation, they are as good as grammemagnificent_ruin
- HAHAHAHA @ rand7point34
- Hahaha, no they kick me in the teeth any day of any week. Just making a point about how we all win some, then lose some :)gramme
- mimeartist_limited0
Pentagram - The famous logo makers
- Ruffian0
I've noticed that a lot of their stuff looks so-so on the screen but get's your attention when applied in the real world.
- utopian0
Some of their is cookie cutter and somewhat repetitive. I would not say that they necessarily suck though... Perhaps overated!
- landock0
We also have to remember that the client has partial control over any design project. Some of the stuff that isn't blowing your mind may have been compromised a bit.
- +100gramme
- yep, as do producers, PM's, layers of art and creative directors, rounds and rounds of revision. --->threadpost
- original idea and design get so convoluted after so much scrutiny by so many cooks in the kitchenthreadpost
- TRUE!akrok
- ukit0
Most things suck when you examine them closely
- THA0
my question is, how does Pentagram structure it's financial/earnings system? does every partner get the same amount of $$$ ? Is a relatively new partner such as Luke Hayman (joined 2006) as equal of a partner financially as a Paula Scher (joined 1991)? How do they make that work fairly? Who shells out for things like rent, etc. in such a system as theirs?
- anyone???THA
- What sort of question is this? No they don't make the same or pay rent out of their pocket.lifterBARON
- i've heard they all share revenue & everyone earns same amount no matter which partner.THA
- ... i heard that no matter how much each partners brings in separately, they all share profits equally.THA
- GDM0
The Philharmonic looks pretty dang good in practice here, and totally makes sense when you read the background on it: http://blog.pentagram.com/2009/0…
- Llyod0
this is kind of cool
http://www.dsrny.com/
- onewhoslaps0
hmmmm.......
i'd worry about making a website that works before you go start bashing established work and great historical design institutes.
amicus website - http://www.comingsoon.com.au/
"Web Site not configured"
- I'd worry about addressing the debate instead of the debaters.fate_
- (insert master-debaters joke here)
(insert fail here)fate_ - (insert master-debater joke here)
(insert fail here)fate_ - I know my website isn't up. It's been on my to do list for a couple of years, but I'm still learning to code...Amicus
- PS... that isn't my domain name :)Amicus
- epete220
let's see what they have done.
- JSK0
Ok i am leaving.
- what--just because epete is a republican?magnificent_ruin
- I am a republican.JSK
- joeth0
You guys need to chill. Obviously the thread title was just an attention grabber... which worked quite well. You have to admit some of their recent stuff is boring. What about this logo makes you want to eat at Ruby Tuesday?
The fact that it looks cheap? Then again, with this economy... maybe they are geniuses.
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http://blog.pentagra…joeth - The logo looks cheap but they removed all there checkered table cloths and replaced withepete22
- i agree this totally needs more gradients and reflections7point34
- white clothes....not to mention the style of their plates are modern....What a fuck up.epete22
- and it doesn't even say "beta"
pfffffft7point34 - Clarendon? what's not to like?magnificent_ruin
- Boy, that link was informative! LOL?dMullins
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- fate_0
Damn right magnificent_ruin. I've got hate in my heart and I gotta let it out.