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- TheBlueOne0
On a side note, within a US context, I find it rather odd that those that most vocally put down others by saying that they "need some sort of emperor" or "need to be slaves" (ie see Libertarians, Ayn Rand cultists, Tea Party peeps, etc.) have an utterly slavish devotion to the mythical Founders and the Constitution as if those men and that document, written to face the political/social/economic terrain of the 18th century must be held in some sort of untouchable sacrosanct realm.
The Constitution, among it's writers, was meant to be a workable changeable document, but has become a religion to these folks. They rail righteously against what they perceive as weaknesses among their fellow citizens ("They can't handle freedom!") but slavishly give up critical thinking and any notions of freedom when bathing in the light of a 18th century document meant to reconcile the problems of a civilization based on sail powered trade of slaves, sugar and rum.
- you sound like an apologist. And yeah true, no one pays attention to real issues. iyurimon
- they're happy to change the constitution if it denies gays equal rights or anyone else they disagree withmonkeyshine
- I think gay people are doing just fine. No one is denying anyone anything. Marriage license is not a constitution issueyurimon
- TheBlueOne0
If you people were serious about "freedom" you'd be confronting the actual issues facing our civilization today, and what it means to be free in the context of the current world, instead of dragging what is left of an 18th century corpse onto the public square and beating it with your musket replicas.
- funny... yet you hold onto the constitution when it come to separation of church and state... ironic. You are so full of bigotry.whhipp
- bigotry.whhipp
- Please post my quote supporting such a thing. I'll sit here and wait.TheBlueOne
- And you use a big word like "bigotry" but obviously don't know what it means.TheBlueOne
- IRNlun60
The President shall be Commander in Chief...of the Militia of the several States, when called into the actual Service of the United States....
ARTICLE II, SECTION 2, CLAUSE 1
Rightwingers always seem to ignore this.
- IRNlun60
"If there is an emergency duh! invasion. insurrection. What does it say about subversion?"
Pretty sure there's nothing about subversion specifically, but we can probably classify that as an threat, foreign or domestic. If by subversion you mean the President not living up to his oath, then there's impeachment.
Don't see where the 2nd amendment gives constitutional precedents for a militia to overthrow any legislative body of government.
- whhipp0
Hey, here's a question: How many of "you people" :) have served or contributed/sacrificed a portion of your life in some way to this democracy of ours?
- Have you served? Please post discharge papers.TheBlueOne
- Better yet, post your pic in the mugs thread of brave anonymous trollTheBlueOne
- Cowardly anonymous troll is cowardlyTheBlueOne
- Your wife still selling those Jesus tshirts will? How's the weather out there in California?TheBlueOne
- Why would any educated person serve for that nation?severian
- Here's an answer... I paid for your service with my tax money so I own you!fooler
- chossy0
whipp makes a good point, only active servicemen should own guns, good point actually whipp.
- whhipp0
@severian: you are not truly stating that everyone in the armed forces are uneducated and stupid. Insulting the very people who protect your rights... exactly what I am dealing with here.
@theblueone: yes I have served and no I dont have to show you my discharge DD214 papers. Amazing how that got you all in a bunch? Why the lashout with such a simple question? Either you served or you didn't.
- Protect my rights? You are delusional.severian
- no you are. its sad. you have no clue what these forces do for our way of life... but you will bask in it without thanks.whhipp
- the people that got arrested for violating "free speech zones" were also standing up for our rights...TheBlueOne
- ..and by doing so more than anyone shooting brown people in Iraq for oil money ever didTheBlueOne
- ukit20
whhipp, where did you serve? Any proof?
- http://www.youtube.c…utopian
- no there will be no proof.TheBlueOne
- because he's a loudmouthed liar.TheBlueOne
- Yes, I served in the Army. No I will not submit proof. No need.whhipp
- 74LEO0
Anyone have a link to President Obama's 11:45am briefing on guns?
- 74LEO0
think this is it.
- 74LEO0
Looks like Biden is positioning himself to run from President.
- albums0
I don't lie, I don't insult. I never call anyone names or swear (unless jokingly). I also don't need to care what you think. You're an equal not a superior. Your opinions are just that. Opinions. You're not making policy. You're not working to create an action group. You're merely attacking the weakest points of an opposing argument. There is no discussion, only demands. You are not right, only adamant to your beliefs.
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Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves
- Abraham Lincoln- here here! now go out and freely buy you some guns.whhipp
- ukit20
I have a hard time imagining Biden winning the Presidency, he's just too old (already 70). Democrats are going to need some better candidates for 2016.
- chossy0
"Yeah so I was in the army for a time, and now I am a designer"
said nobody ever.
Designers are generally faggy people who piss their pants at the first sight of blood. Hand them a gun and they will be the first ones to accidentally blast a colleague in the face or shoot themselves in the foot.
- qoob0
I don't think there are any veterans here...
whhipp says he was "in the army" but doesn't say what war which is the first thing most military people will tell you. yurimon has never even fired a gun..
- Yes I have. Down south. When I ventured out of NY. Not my favorite thing but I am good at lining up targets.yurimon
- haha @ down south. poser.monkeyshine
- qoob0
Anyway the idea that just because you served in the army means your opinion is somehow worth more is silly. I have met people in the military who were great people, and others who were seriously messed up and I would not want anywhere near government policy.
- http://www.youtube.c…waterhouse
- I have 3 friends who were in the military and they all think the NRA are extremist wackos.monkeyshine
- qoob0
18800!
- whhipp0
A report by a panel of experts released on Thursday questioned whether the federal government's food stamp program adequately provides for healthy diets for the more than 47 million low-income people who rely on the benefit.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2…
47 Million = 1 in 7 people. Way too high.
- utopian0
The chocolate mayor will probably go to chocolate prison!
Former New Orleans mayor indicted on federal corruption charges...
http://www.cnn.com/2013/01/18/ju…