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  • e-pill0

    A REALLY OPEN LETTER TO MR. WARNER TODD HUSTON
    http://goodcomics.comicbookresou…

    Bill Reed pens an open letter to Warner Todd Huston, the conservative blogger whose post a week and a half ago launched a flurry of controversy over an issue of Captain America and the role of comic books in modern politics.

    • Are you kidding me? He doesn't make one logical point. He regurgitates the same vile he is criticized for. I thought you were smarter.
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    • smarter.
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    • just posting it for you politics kids so you have more bullets in your gun..e-pill
    • awe you think of me.. thats so sweet!!! i honestly never heard of you til today..e-pill
    • i was thinking of that real person thread. and that i think i never seen you b4..e-pill
    • and wow.. here you are, stating you think of me.. so i guess. HI THERE!! woozy!!!e-pill
  • ismith0

    Whoa what the...

    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.c…

    Mr. Paul, a Republican Congressman from Texas who inspired an intense following for president in 2008, swept the 2012 presidential straw poll Saturday at the Conservative Political Action Conference.

    He won with 31 percent of the nearly 2,400 votes at the conference, edging out Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, who won the straw poll last year and who captured 22 percent of the vote.

    When Mr. Paul’s name was announced in the packed ballroom of a Washington hotel, it elicited hoots and boos along with applause. Although Mr. Romney won fewer votes, he seemed to draw stronger applause.

    Sarah Palin, the former governor of Alaska, who did not attend the conference, was a distant third, with 7 percent of the vote.

    About half of the 10,000 people attending the conference are students, according to the poll. The straw poll in past years has rarely predicted the winner of the Republican nomination.

    Despite the poll, David Keene, the chairman of the American Conservative Union, which runs the CPAC conference, said that there was little talk at the conference of the 2012 presidential race, largely because Republicans are focused on the 2010 midterms.

    “We all have our eyes on the closest target,” he said.

    • There's a head-scratcher...kin...luckyorphan
    • ...kinda.luckyorphan
    • Ron Paul is almost a whacky as Sarah Palin. "Without the lipstick" of course.utopian
    • Ron Paul is way better than Palinukit
    • What ukit said.ismith
    • < That's not saying much.luckyorphan
    • Ron Paul is my favorite. Some of his issues aren't popular, legalizing drugs etc. But otherwise I really like that guy.mathinc
    • You guys should all take a look at his book.. if anything read the first chp and decide if it's for you or not.mathinc
  • fooler20

    I'm pretty sure these are all republicans...




    http://www.break.com/pictures/lu…

    • dude, that's kinda childishGeorgesII
    • Fred, SumWurk, JazX
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  • utopian0

    Where is all the Teabagger and Republican outrage towards the banking systems outrageous, exorbitant and ass raping charges
    to the U.S. consumer?

    Oh wait... Wall Street, Corporate America, Teabaggers and the Republican Party are all the same!

    http://money.cnn.com/2010/02/17/…

    • Well, don't spend more than you earn, and you should be fine...luckyorphan
    • ...assuming you have 1. a job, 2. affordable health care, and 3. an affordable home.luckyorphan
    • Are you that stupid? Where do you think the END THE FED movement came?
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    • Quit playing the left vs right game. It really shows your lack of education and critical thinking.
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    • We are done playing the group game. We are going back to being individuals of human beings.
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    • You only say that because you're embarrassed to be a GOP.Mimio
  • utopian0

    GFY WALL STREET AND U.S. BANKING SYSTEM

  • Point50

    glad to see this thread has gotten shittier.

  • luckyorphan0

    Yeh...let's try to resurrect this thread with something I appreciate. Namely, conservatives taking on other conservatives. Doesn't happen all too often because the GOP and its supporters are often much better at maintaining cohesion among the ranks, but two articles give me hope that more grown-ups are finding their voice.

    First...

    Sarah Palin and the mutual loathing society
    by George Will
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp…

    "...Sarah Palin, who with 17 months remaining in her single term as Alaska's governor quit the only serious office she has ever held, is obsessively discussed as a possible candidate in 2012. Why? She is not going to be president and will not be the Republican nominee unless the party wants to lose at least 44 states.

    Conservatives, who rightly respect markets as generally reliable gauges of consumer preferences, should notice that the political market is speaking clearly: The more attention Palin receives, the fewer Americans consider her presidential timber. The latest Post-ABC News poll shows that 71 percent of Americans -- including 52 percent of Republicans -- think she is not qualified to be president."

    Then...

    Schwarzenegger Rips Romney, GOP For Stimulus Hypocrisy
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/20…

    "I find it interesting that you have a lot of the Republicans running around, and pushing back on the stimulus money and saying, 'This doesn't create any new job,'" said Schwarzenegger. "And then they go out and do the photo ops, posing with the big check and they say: 'Isn't this great, look at the kind of money I've provided for the state and this is money to create jobs, and this has created 10,000 new jobs, this has created 20,000 news jobs, and all those kinds of things.' It doesn't match up."

    Good stuff.

    • In the interest of fairness, I'll post some good articles of liberals taking on their own, as well.luckyorphan
    • ...shouldn't be too hard to find. The left has a wonderful talent for circular firing squads.luckyorphan
  • luckyorphan0

    Stellar article from Evan Bayh:
    Why I'm Leaving the Senate
    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/2…

    "The most ideologically devoted elements in both parties must accept that not every compromise is a sign of betrayal or an indication of moral lassitude. When too many of our citizens take an all-or-nothing approach, we should not be surprised when nothing is the result. "

    It's a shame he's leaving. And I'd say that about him regardless of his party affiliation.

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    http://www.amazon.com/Death-Amer…

    I live about 15 minutes from the author. It's a pretty interesting read. He doesn't paint Clniton or Starr in a bad light.

    • The little piece about Bin Laden's attempt on Clinton in 1996 is interesting. We knew much more about how dangerous he was prior to 2001 than we've been led to believe.Josev
    • how much of a threat he was prior to 2001 than we've been led to believe.Josev
  • luckyorphan0

    For those of you taking things seriously:

    The President’s Proposal to Reform Health Care
    http://www.whitehouse.gov/health…

    Haven't read it yet, but I thought I'd share. Read up, folks.

  • luckyorphan0

    Latest news on the Austin terrorist attack on the IRS:

    Joe Stack IRS attack: 'hero' debate heats up

    Joe Stack, who attacked the IRS by flying his plane into its offices in Austin, Texas, is being lauded as a 'hero' in antigovernment circles. The son of the man he killed strongly disagrees.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/201…

    • Unreal.luckyorphan
    • I love the CS Monitor.
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    • Nuts, wonder what their position on Islamic terrorism is?Timmiller
    • "antigovernment" is pretty much a keyword for sprawling generalizations and misunderstandingsismith
  • ukit0

    Although in general I agree with your comments luckyorphan, I don't see why anyone should feel bad that Evan Bayh left. It's easy to say you are a centrist, but what did the guy actually accomplish? A lot of these so-called "centrists" (like Lieberman) are, let's face it, just assholes.

    • 1. Did you read the article? 2. It is possible to be a centrist and not be like Lieberman.luckyorphan
    • 3. On what are you basing your characterization, other than the independent from Connecticut?luckyorphan
  • 762mm0

    "Stack is also becoming a hero to the radical right – specifically, white supremacists and their fellow travelers, according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. Supremacist web forums have been filled with comments that elevate Stack into an icon of resistance to tyranny, writes Mark Potok, director of the SPLC’s Intelligence Project."

  • utopian0

    GOP's "cash-and-trash" Strategy

    "I find it interesting that you have a lot of the Republicans running around and pushing back on the stimulus money and saying this doesn't create any new jobs," he said. "And then they go out and they do the photo ops and they are posing with the big check and they say, 'isn't this great?'"

    - (R) California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

    http://www.politico.com/news/sto…
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/yn…

  • 762mm0

    "Georgia Rep. Phil Gingrey is one of them.

    Gingrey calls the stimulus a “boondoggle” and a “dismal failure” — and like all House Republicans, he voted against it last year. But when Cedartown, Ga., got $625,000 in stimulus funds to help build new sidewalks, Gingrey made sure he was on hand to present the city with an oversize check signed by “Uncle Sam.”

    F--k you, you slimy,greasey two face right wing f--k twats.

    • Politicans will say or do anything to get ahead, kick the bums outTimmiller
    • And replace them with what? Nothing?DrBombay
    • For all the good their doing currently? How about a pet rock?Timmiller
    • nothing newBattleAxe
  • ukit0

    Geez, the VA legislature is full of nutcases. Listen to this guy

    "State Delegate Bob Marshall of Manassas says disabled children are God's punishment to women who have aborted their first pregnancy.

    He made that statement Thursday at a press conference to oppose state funding for Planned Parenthood.

    "The number of children who are born subsequent to a first abortion with handicaps has increased dramatically. Why? Because when you abort the first born of any, nature takes its vengeance on the subsequent children," said Marshall, a Republican.

    "In the Old Testament, the first born of every being, animal and man, was dedicated to the Lord. There's a special punishment Christians would suggest."

    And in a related story...

    http://rawstory.com/2010/02/virg…

    "Concerns over privacy have aligned with apocalyptic Biblical prophecy in a proposed Virginia law that limits the use of microchip implants on humans because of a lawmaker's concern that the chips will prove to be the Antichrist's "mark of the beast."

    On Wednesday, Virginia's House of Delegates passed a bill that forbids companies from forcing their employees to be implanted with tracking devices, a move likely to be applauded by civil libertarians.

    But Virginia state Delegate Mark Cole's reasons for proposing the law have as much to do with the Book of Revelation as they do with concerns over privacy in the digital age.

    Cole says he is concerned that the implants will turn out to be the "mark of the beast" worn by Satan's minions.

    "My understanding -- I'm not a theologian -- but there's a prophecy in the Bible that says you'll have to receive a mark, or you can neither buy nor sell things in end times," Cole said, as quoted at the Washington Post. "Some people think these computer chips might be that mark."

    • and the idiot goes to quote the book of fairy tales to boot.762mm
    • He sounds like the caring sharing sortTimmiller
    • How does it make a theological sense to try and stop the "end times"? Don't they want the "end"?Mimio
  • ukit0

    Good for Gov Crist of Florida (Republican) for being honest and not towing the party line.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/20…

    Florida Governor Charlie Crist won't win over many of his conservative critics with his latest move -- declaring emphatically that the president's stimulus has created tens of thousands of jobs in his state and expressing "not one iota" of regret for working with Obama (indeed, hugging him) on the jobs-creating proposal.

    Appearing outside the White House on Monday, the Florida Republican Senatorial candidate pushed back against his GOP critics -- notably Sen. Scott Brown (R-Mass.) -- who have declared that the stimulus has not created one single job in America.

    "It is not the case in Florida -- we accepted the stimulus money; all of my fellow governors did," Crist said. "I think it was the responsible and right thing to do for the people and it puts people above politics. In Florida alone, for example, it created or maintained at least 87,000 jobs; 27,000 of those jobs are educators and teachers throughout the state. I dare say what the impact would be throughout the state if those teachers were out of work, unable to put bread on the table of their families. This is necessary and it relates to job creation."

    Asked later if he has any regrets over appearing alongside Obama at a presidential visit to Florida to tout the stimulus's benefits, he replied: "None whatsoever."

    • I'm sure Rubio will spin this in his favor, despite being a bit hippocritical on the stimulus matter himself.luckyorphan
  • ismith0

    Regardless of the antichrist BS, WHY THE FUCK WOULD EMPLOYEES BE FORCED TO GET A MICROCHIP IMPLANT?

  • ismith0

    Do you ever think, just for a second, that the politicians and lawmakers saying stuff like the above (antichrist, microchips, blah blah blah) have fabricated their belief entirely for the sake of the people they are serving? I mean if he was just any old guy (democrat, republican, whatever) and he said he opposed the bill because it was unfair to employees or whatever, something normal like that, would you question it? I mean ultimately everyone is just trying to satisfy certain goals, so it's not so far-fetched to think that they just realize how effective that kind of language (i.e. Bible prophecies and whatnot) to their sector– nor would it be impossible that they were actually trying to do this for the good of those people even if they didn't agree with their fundamentals...

    The basic premises for this:
    We assume that all politicians lie or pretend to be things they're not.
    Me also assume that sometimes the intentions for this are good. (i.e. WWI and WWII propaganda)

    I know I'm writing in a way that's really hard to understand, but I think I just found myself a piece to work on... booyah motherfuckers!!! :D

    • been going on for centuriesMimio
    • i know, it almost seems to obvious. but lately it just seems relevant as per the above...ismith
    • *too.
      but yes, exactly! haha
      ismith
    • In an electoral system, the people get the government they deserve.luckyorphan
  • ukit0

    So maybe they are actually smart guys doing good things but they feel compelled to act like lunatics because the public is fucking stupid?