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  • ukit0

    Did you guys know there were supposed to be a second round of "tea parties" this week? Hmmm...that shit sorta fizzled out, huh?

  • DrBombay0

    I didn't watch any of the MJ bullshit, but I heard there was supposed to be over a million people. They all need to sleep somewhere, buy gas, food, water, booze and countless other things while they are in LA for this garbage. So it brings in a lot of revenue for the city.

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  • TheBlueOne0

    Wow. Her spokesperson is cut from the same cloth. I'm amazed at the pride in ignorance on display.

    • Vapid... void... empty...clueless... shallow... any more?BusterBoy
    • It's her spokesperson. I'd be more amazed if she actually made sense.IRNlun6
  • ukit0

    How long until the sex tape comes out?

    • < Troll-like, inflammatory rhetoric? Just wondering.
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    • Does anyone here care what you think? Just wondering.ukit
    • I could care less what you think. You're a troll though, for real.
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    Please provide details of the "millions upon millions"...

    blueone, I am speculating here. But I imagine that over the years that MJ has had much to do in generating revenue for the City of LA and surrounding counties throughout California.

    For instance, he has donated millions of dollars to charity, some of which were in CA. Also, the tourism to visit his ranch, his "Star" on Hollywood Blvd, etc. Also, the taxes he paid. The local/regional business he supported and so on.

    Again, speculation, but my sense is that over his lifetime, that LA and CA benefited to the tune of 10x-100x what it cost for his memorial today.

  • PonyBoy0

    Korea, Honduras, Iran...

    ... Michael Jackson.

  • TheBlueOne0

    "But when I asked Palin if she ever decided to pursue national office again, as she did less than a year ago when she joined Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., in the race for the White House, wouldn't she encounter the same political blood sport? Can such ugliness ever be avoided?

    Palin said there is a difference between the White House and what she has experienced in Alaska. If she were in the White House the "department of law" would protect her from baseless ethical allegations.

    "I think on a national level your department of law there in the White House would look at some of the things that we've been charged with and automatically throw them out," she said.

    There is no "Department of Law" at the White House."

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/s…

    • the "department of law" HAHAHAHAJonnyPompa
    • We certainly would be in a "World of Hurt" if this woman got into the Whitehouse.Josev
    • She meant the "law department" you hyper critical piece of gay-boy excrement .
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    • A homophobe and an apologist for ignorance. GetRefresh you're awesome!DrBombay
  • mg330

    The Odd Lies Of Sarah Palin: A Round-Up
    from The Daily Dish | By Andrew Sullivan by Andrew Sullivan

    Some readers have asked me to put all the various odd lies of Sarah Palin that the Dish has compiled in one helpful place. So that's what we've done. A couple of months ago, I asked an intern to re-fact-check all of them to make sure new details hadn't emerged that might debunk some. And I also asked to get any subsequent statements by Palin that acknowledged that she had erred in any of these statements that are easily rebuttable by facts in the public record and apologized and corrected. She has not. Since this was a vast project over the last ten months, it's possible there are some nuances or errors that need fixing. Please tell us if you find one and we'll acknowledge and fix. But it has been put through the ringer a few times.

    After you have read these, ask yourself: what wouldn't Sarah Palin lie about if she felt she had to?

    Palin lied when she said the dismissal of her public safety commissioner, Walt Monegan, had nothing to do with his refusal to fire state trooper Mike Wooten; in fact, the Branchflower Report concluded that she repeatedly abused her power when dealing with both men.

    Palin lied when she repeatedly claimed to have said, "Thanks, but no thanks" to the Bridge to Nowhere; in fact, she openly campaigned for the federal project when running for governor.

    Palin lied when she denied that Wasilla's police chief and librarian had been fired; in fact, both were given letters of termination the previous day.

    Palin lied when she wrote in the NYT that a comprehensive review by Alaska wildlife officials showed that polar bears were not endangered; in fact, email correspondence between those scientists showed the opposite.

    Palin lied when she claimed in her convention speech that an oil pipeline "began" under her guidance; in fact, the pipeline was years from breaking ground, if at all.

    Palin lied when she told Charlie Gibson that she does not pass judgment on gay people; in fact, she opposes all rights between gay spouses and belongs to a church that promotes conversion therapy.

    Palin lied when she denied having said that humans do not contribute to climate change; in fact, she had previously proclaimed that human activity was not to blame.

    Palin lied when she claimed that Alaska produces 20 percent of the country's domestic energy supply; in fact, the actual figures, based on any interpretation of her words, are much, much lower.

    Palin lied when she told voters she improvised her convention speech when her teleprompter stopped working properly; in fact, all reports showed that the machine had functioned perfectly and that her speech had closely followed the script.

    Palin lied when she recalled asking her daughters to vote on whether she should accept the VP offer; in fact, her story contradicts details given by her husband, the McCain campaign, and even Palin herself. (She later added another version.)

    Palin lied when she claimed to have taken a voluntary pay cut as mayor; in fact, as councilmember she had voted against a raise for the mayor, but subsequent raises had taken effect by the time she was mayor.

    Palin lied when she insisted that Wooten's divorce proceedings had caused his confidential records to become public; in fact, court officials confirmed they released no such records.

    Palin lied when she suggested to Katie Couric that she was involved in trade missions with Russia; in fact, she has never even met with Russian officials.

    Palin lied when she told Shimon Peres that the only flag in her office was the Israeli flag; in fact, she has several flags.

    Palin lied when she claimed to have tried to divest government funds from Sudan; in fact, her administration openly opposed a bill that would have done just that.

    Palin lied when she repeatedly claimed that troop levels in Iraq were back to pre-surge levels; in fact, even she acknowledged her "misstatements," though she refused to retract or apologize.

    Palin lied when she insisted that the Branchflower Report "showed there was no unlawful or unethical activity on my part"; in fact, that report prominently stated, "Palin abused her power by violating Alaska Statute 39.52.110(a) of the Alaska Executive Branch Ethics Act."

    Palin lied when she claimed to have voiced concerns over Wooten fearing he would harm her family; in fact, she actually decreased her security detail during that period.

    Palin lied when asked about the $150,000 worth of clothes provided by the RNC; in fact, solid reporting contradicted several parts of her statement.

    Palin lied when she suggested that she had offered the media proof of her pregnancy with Trig to "correct the record; in fact, no reports of her medical records were ever published; and the letter from her doctor testifying to her good health only emerged hours before polling ended on election day, even though there was nothing in it that couldn't have been released two months earlier.

    Palin lied when she said that "reported" allegations of her banning Harry Potter as mayor was easily refutable because it had not even been written yet; in fact, the first book in that series was published in 1998 - two years into her first term - and such rumors were never reported by the media, only circulated as emails.

    Palin lied when she denied having participated in a clothes audit with campaign laywers; in fact, the Washington Times later confirmed those details.

    Palin lied when asked about Couric's question regarding her reading habits; in fact, Couric's words were not, "What do you read up there in Alaska?" or anything close to condescension.

    Palin lied when she mischaracterized the "$1200 check" given to Alaskans as the permanent fund dividend check; in fact, that fund had yielded $2,069 per person, and she claimed otherwise to obscure the fact that Alaskans also received a $1200 rebate check from a windfall profits tax on oil companies - a tax widely criticized by Republicans.

    Palin lied when she claimed to be unaware of a turkey being slaughtered behind her during a filmed interview; in fact, the cameraman said she had picked the spot herself, while the slaughter was underway.

    Palin lied when she denied having rejected federal stimulus money; in fact, she continued to accept and reject the funds several times.

    Palin lied when she claimed that legislative leaders had canceled a meeting with her to hold their own press conference; in fact, they only canceled it after being told she would not participate, and the purpose of the press conference was very different from the meeting's.

    Palin lied when she announced on the news that she never holds closed-door meetings; in fact, she had just attended a closed-door meeting with the legislature earlier that day.

    Palin lied when she said that former aide John Bitney's "amicable" departure was for "personal" reasons; in fact, Bitney said he was fired because of his relationship with the wife of Palin's friend, plus a Palin spokesperson later claimed "poor job performance" for his firing - without elaborating.

    Palin lied when she said she kept her running injury a secret on the campaign trail; in fact, her bandaged hand was clearly visible in photographs and the story was widely talked about.

    Palin lied when she claimed that Alaska has spent "millions of dollars" on litigation related to her ethics complaints; in fact, that figure is much, much lower, and she had initiated the most expensive inquiry.

    Palin lied when she denied that the Alaska Independence Party supports secession and denied that her husband had been a member; in fact, even the McCain campaign noted that the party's very existence is based on secession and that Todd was a member for seven years.

    • Obama is a liar too. A BIG fucking liar. Don't make me list his lies here.
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    • go ahead, list them.DrBombay
  • TheBlueOne0

    US Founding Father of the Day: Robert Morris

    "Who?" you say...read on, and I think you can figure out why he's been conveniently "forgotten" in the current narrative of the American Revolution, but it wouldn't of happened without him.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rob…

    He's also the guy who introduced the "$" symbol to all official US documents.

  • TheBlueOne0

    "At a court appearance July 4 in Manhattan, Assistant U.S. Attorney Joseph Facciponti told a federal judge that Aleynikov’s alleged theft poses a risk to U.S. markets. Aleynikov transferred the code, which is worth millions of dollars, to a computer server in Germany, and others may have had access to it, Facciponti said, adding that New York-based Goldman Sachs may be harmed if the software is disseminated.

    “The bank has raised the possibility that there is a danger that somebody who knew how to use this program could use it to manipulate markets in unfair ways,” Facciponti said, according to a recording of the hearing made public today. “The copy in Germany is still out there, and we at this time do not know who else has access to it.”

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/ne…

    So, in the "wrong hands" it could manipulate markets in unfair ways. And Goldman Sachs would never do something like that. Nope. No sir.

    A second point, this program is most assuredly not the only program of it's sort. Since markets are zero-sum games, whose the loser if all these investment houses are running front end market manipulations on trades based on these programs? I leave that dangling in the air....

    Third, amazing how fast Goldman Sachs got the FBI to jump on this, less than 24 hours. How long does it take for the cops to show up at your door about you're stolen property. This point made with tongue planted in cheek.

    And finally, this might raise your eyebrows and chuckle a bit:

    http://cryptogon.com/?p=9712

  • TheBlueOne0

    Hey douchetard (as there is only one in this thread you can easily self identify),

    "She meant the "law department" you hyper critical piece of gay-boy excrement ."

    You're a walking facepalm. I think what you meant to say is "Department of Justice", which is a cabinet level federal body. However it's role, last I checked has absolutely nothing to do with shielding the President or any elected official from media criticism or being subject to ethical investigations.

    You can ask Clinton how that worked.

    Amazing how much you criticize government and know absolutely nothing about how it works.

    • nope, not what i meant ass-licker. Oh fuck, Obama is such a disaster.
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    • You're such a fucking joke.TheBlueOne
  • ukit0

    GetRefresh/ TruthHurts = perfect encapsulation of current state of conservative American politics.

    • He should really think about changing his name to ButtHurt.EightyDeuce
  • DrBombay0

    OBAMA NEVER SHOWED HIS BERF CERTIFICATE!

  • PonyBoy0

    meanwhile... dabomba's daproval rating decreases more and more...

    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/…

    *farts in thread and closes the invisible door locking you chumps in

  • TheBlueOne0

    Seriously, what is it with you conservatives? How can I even take what you post seriously when you start out wiht "dabomba" "nobomba"..is it just something you can't help, like a twitch or something? I'd really like to know. I mean I couldn't stand Bush, but I just called him, you know "Bush". I might've clarified it like, "That moron, Bush..." but I never said "Brush" or "Bushit" or whatever. It's just makes you sound like a four year old before I can even click on your link or address your raised issue.

    • How about "SlowBama". Joke is that Obama is such a wreck. You fucking liberal idiots.
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  • PonyBoy0

    hahaha... cuz DrBomDobs said 'berf'...

    ... i was merely following suit.

    • OBAMA IS THE ANTICHRIST!DrBombay
    • Obama is just not very smart at all.
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    • You're right. John McCain would have it all fixed by now.DrBombay
    • Yeah. Palin was much smarter.TheBlueOne
  • PonyBoy0

    ... and cram a couple more tampons up there while you're at it, tbo... sheesh. ;)

    • Hahaha!! Pass me a flashlight will ya...TheBlueOne
    • I got a snake light if you needPonyBoy
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    Anyone, including Palin would be doing a better job than Obama. Voters already have serious buyer's remorse. Biden is completely worthless.

    I'd sum it up by suggesting that the appointment of Al Franken to the Senate pretty much says it all here.

    • You're right, I don't trust jews either.DrBombay
    • ;)DrBombay
    • So how long have you been frightened by smarter, funnier people than yourself?TheBlueOne
    • A rhetorical, or troll-like question blueone? You tell me.
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    Pop Quiz:
    How many US Presidents had no college whatsoever? In other words, never made it to college at all?

    • 9utopian
    • very good. so all of you shut the fuck up about how smart you think you are.
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    • Die of anal cancer you loudmouth assholeTheBlueOne
    • Hahaha! Ask a question, someone answers then you tell everyone to shut the fuck up for thinking they're smart.IRNlun6