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- robotron3k0
Why you waste fuking Americans... look at your carbon footprint.
- ukit0
Jesus. I have never seen people getso worked up over shit they have no understanding of.
- < Troll-like, inflammatory rhetoric? Just wondering.********
- < Troll-like, inflammatory rhetoric? Just wondering.
- robotron3k0
I just hope people keep referring to it as the "carbon tax scheme"... and when your Apply Juice goes up 50¢ in price, the guy at the checkout is going to say, "It's the carbon tax" and you'll walk away with less money in your pocket and forever trying to figure out WHY paying added taxes to your everyday life, where the money is going to put into an invisible "fund" is going to make the environment better, will perpetually keep you flummoxed.
- ukit0
- is that a detonator behind them?Corvo2
- Bat Phone, no?TheBlueOne
- PonyBoy0
special interests... special hugs :)
- TheBlueOne0
Best read of the day. Excerpt:
"What we are witnessing, as I have written elsewhere, is a perverse form of insurance pay off. Let’s call it political insurance. Ordinarily when insurance is offered, a premium is paid and, over time, the provider of insurance sets the rate on the premium so that they make a bit of money despite periodic payouts for accidents. What we have here is different. The financial sector, and other large patronage donors, spend billions of dollars on lobbyists and campaign contributions. Politicians then run their expensive election marketing campaigns with the proceeds. And finally, the contributors buy downside loss protection from the politicians and their appointees.
Who provides that downside protection? You and me. The taxpayer. The body politic. We get used by this refracted process, and our system is mislabeled as a representative democracy. And, to add insult to injury, we are forced to endure the the horror of the awful marketing campaigns of politicians using the their payoff money to protect donors with our the tax base. The media is on the take, too, collecting advertising revenue from financial companies and from political campaigns. Far be it for them to step outside this circular flow of funds that impedes our political system from incorporating feedback from evidence of its own dysfunction.
We are amidst a crisis of political legitimacy. The leaders of our complex financial firms have failed. They have failed as stewards of our nation’s future. They have failed as protectors of our public Treasury. Now, with trillions guaranteed, hundreds of billions of bailouts paid, and very little in the way of investigation, firings, or prosecution of the perpetrators, we are all being asked to calm down, move on, and stop acting like populists (a pejorative term when used by elite media or financiers). In the mean time, the perpetrators of this disaster confidently pay their political soldiers for another round of lobbying/campaign contribution money."
http://www.newdeal20.org/?p=2905…
Read. Please get angry.
- I have been angry , I have been tailgating like a motherfuckerBattleAxe
- but srsly , what do we do .... I say we all quit paying taxes as a form of non violent disobedienceBattleAxe
- More tea parties! :-) Okay, go ahead and thrash me now. But seriously, thanks for the post blueone.********
- Stop with the Tea Parties. You do realize they were funded by Fox to funnel popular rage AWAY from the real actors...TheBlueOne
- ...the fiscally responsible us government!johndiggity
- Good article.kgvs72
- robotron3k0
Wait a minute folks... it just occurred to me, MJ dead and Sarah Palin resigns!!!? It's all coming together now...
- Please, paint me a picture...but wait, let me adjust my tinfoil hat first...TheBlueOne
- ukit0
I'm telling ya...
1. Obama crushes fly
2. Sanford affair breaks
3. Palin resigns
4. MJ dies
5. ?- Life in the 21st Century is amazing, no?TheBlueOne
- Steve McNair is murdered by his 20 yr old gir;friend?********
- Oh like David Carradine found in a closet in Thailand wasn't a sign of things to come...IRNlun6
- version30
5. justin gets a job!
- *double insulates tin hat.robotron3k
- good thinking... follows suitversion3
- TheBlueOne0
Conditions now worse than worse-case scenarios used in bank "stress tests".
- ukit0
6. Mike Huckabee suddenly and mysteriously chokes to death while eating chicken and grits at a "Po Folks" restaurant.
- JonnyPompa0
The reality is we were foolish when we actually had any hope that Obama was going just come in and dismantle this good ol' boys club/corporate oligarchy that masquerades as a democracy.
When this house of cards implodes the puppet masters will escape to their private island villas overseas. When the peasants finally decide to rise up they will be long gone and laughing at us as we cannibalize each other. Get ready for some lord of the flies type shit. Stock up on ammo and Spam.
- I never expected Obama to. He always was far too much of an insider/centrist kind of pol.TheBlueOne
- Looks like China might be just starting to implode today...TheBlueOne
- Please refer to the sept/oct posts in this thread about how neither candidate was gonna change much of anythinglocustsloth
- Well, Obama has been very good on foreign policy for the most part. An improvement over Bush for certainTheBlueOne
- ukit0
- TheBlueOne0
She even fails at Twitter.
"Critics are spinning, so hang in there as they feed false info on the right decision made as I enter last yr in office to not run again...."
http://twitter.com/AKGovSarahPal…
Sense, this makes none.
- TheBlueOne0
Some daily financial crisis brain gum:
"We must overhaul everything. We cannot have a system of rentiers and social dumping under globalisation. Either we have justice or we will have violence. It is a chimera to think that this crisis is just a footnote and that we can carry on as before."
- Nicholas Sarkozy, President of FranceFrom the June 30th edition of the Financial Times:
" Just why is there so much debt in the Anglo-Saxon world? Bankers and regulators know well that it is in nobody’s long-term interests to have allowed borrowing to escalate to a position where the US now owes far more, as a multiple of the economy, than at the start of the Great Depression.
The answer is capitalism’s dirty little secret: excessive lending was the only way to maintain the living standards of the vast bulk of the population at a time when wealth was being concentrated in the hands of an elite. The amount by which the elite has benefited is startling, and illustrates the problem with lightly regulated free markets: the rich get much richer while the rest do not get richer at all. According to Société Générale economists, the inflation-adjusted income of the highest-paid fifth of US earners has risen by 60 per cent since 1970, while it has fallen by more than 10 per cent for the rest. As was recently pointed out in the New York Review of Books, the Walton family, of Wal-Mart fame, is wealthier than the bottom third of the US population put together – about 100m people. These are staggering statistics, confirmed by measures such as the US and UK’s ever-rising Gini coefficients, which estimate income disparity. Another way of putting this is that the share of profits in gross domestic product is at a 100-year high, or was until very recently."
http://www.ft.com/cms/s/e23c6d04…
When one of the mouthpieces of free-market capitalism starts posting articles like this, well, we're going down the rabbit hole.
- This is all great to know, but the problem is these Joe the Plumber types who think any attempt to correct this imbalance is marxism and communism. Even though they are the ones who would benefit the most.JonnyPompa
- is MARXIST COMMUNISM!JonnyPompa
- ********0
The Obama administration has underestimated how bad the economy really is, even though Obama professed time and time again, that we're living in the "worst economy since the great depression"...
When Obama signed the Stimulus Bill, he stated that this bill would keep unemployment at or under 8%. Now his estimate is that we will see 10% by end of summer.
Well, does he get a pass on this? Are any Obama supporters scratching their heads here? I see no concern or criticism whatsoever on this thread, WHY NOT? In fact, there's been allot of poor results coming out of the WHite House as of late, but no one here has the courage to call this administration out.
- pass granted. next question?version3
- "stimulus" is BS, simply won't work .Its fluff talk. The rest of the world are talking serious long term change for this fincial crisislazerbass
- ...financial crisis. To me its one of the main issues where Obama shows his real corporate cronie colorslazerbass
- Stop being distracted by the stimulusTheBlueOne
- TheBlueOne0
See. Truth Hurts, this is where we disagree..the stimulus package was the ONLY thing Obama did right, and he did it half-ass because he gave into the pressure from you and your dipshit TeaBag morons, who seem to have no problem with throwing money at the banks, but all "Woah..wait..you want to give money to rebuild infrastructure and fund all manner of public works that might help out John Q. Public? Hold it right there..."
Obama is obviously a lackey of the financial class to a degree. Zero investigations, zero accountability to one single fucking bank. Nothing.
As far as the stimulus thats just macro-economics 101. That's what governments do when the flow of private money dries up, is to pump government money into the economy.
You idiots seem to think that government economic policy is run the same way you balance a checkbook in your home, or the way a small business balances receipts. It just doesn't work that way. A country, especially one that operates the global reserve currency, generally can't and shouldn't try to run a balance or a surplus. It's basic governmental economics. It's douchetard know-nothing exploitive politicians who try and say stupid shit like "Well you balance your checkbook, the government should do the same." It simply doesn't work that way. It's a matter of degrees of scale and inflow and outflow of capital reserves across the globe. It's like trying to apply the aerodynamics of a bi-plane to a supersonic jet fighter. Sure they both fly, but the principles they operate under are vastly different and if you think you can equate on a 1 to 1 basis, well, that plane is going to hit the ground real fucking fast.
- ********0
I just listened to a California Democratic lawmaker (sorry, didn't get his name) go on, and on and on about how outrageous it is that the city of LA should have to pick up the tab for the Michael Jackson memorial held today at the Staples Center. Given the fact that CA, and LA are broken and facing potential bankruptcy, I can understand the argument that taxpayers should not be on the hook for the estimated 3-5 million dollars.
My problem with this lawmaker though, was his grandstanding. The verbal contempt he showed for the promoter (AEG), the Staples Center, even MJ's family.
Lest he forget the millions upon millions upon millions that MJ brought the city over his extraordinary career, and the millions of dollars that the state and city will reap in the future via tourism, etc.
A fucking arrogant, short-sighted, pompous, ungrateful bag of shit that politician is. The least he could have done is raise his pathetic stink tomorrow, after MJ was laid to rest.
- first sentence is a prime example of how you only hear what you want toversion3
- TheBlueOne0
"Lest he forget the millions upon millions upon millions that MJ brought the city over his extraordinary career, and the millions of dollars that the state and city will reap in the future via tourism, etc."
Please provide details of the "millions upon millions" please.
- California repealed its own inheritance tax in 1982, thanks to Howard Jarvis, so CA won't be getting a dime.TheBlueOne
