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- TheBlueOne0
Opinion:
"Manufacturing in the USA is at or near its lowest point in modern history. All industries are crashed and burned. Please be real. End of story."Fact:
"The United States remains by far the world's leading manufacturer by value of goods produced. It hit a record $1.6 trillion in 2007 - nearly double the $811 billion of 1987. For every $1 of value produced in China factories, the United States generates $2.50."GetRefresh: Doesn't let facts get in the way of his Rush Limbaugh approved talking points.
- "by value of goods" ie. because its expensive.
1.6 trillion was worth 870 billions in 1987********
- "by value of goods" ie. because its expensive.
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FACT:
Manufacturing as a % (percentage) IS MUCH LOWER and near it's LOWEST % POINT in American History. I'm not talking in terms of VALUE. EVERYONE knows that America is by far the world's leading producer.Again, I am referring to %. Do you understand TheBlueDildo?
AND FOR THE LAST TIME YOU FAGGOT, I don't listen to Rush.
Also, TheBlueOne, your Mother never should have fucked the milk-man.
- << gay dildo milk haterGeorgesII
- Correction: I like milk.********
- milky cum that is********
- That would be you.... slurp, slurp.********
- BonSeff0
I am so glad getrefresh takes time away from teaching economics and american history at MIT to drop pearls of wisdom in the qbn politics thread.
- GeorgesII0
for Getrefresh
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http://www.qbn.com/topics/580367…
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- TheBlueOne0
To GetRefresh, let me speak down to a language you can understand.
You said nothing about percentages. You said, and I quote "Manufacturing in the USA is at or near its lowest point in modern history. All industries are crashed and burned."
I replied with the actual fact that, despite the undeniable fact that as a overall percentage of the economy, the manufacturing sector was rather robust, so much in fact that compared dollar to dollar, produces more value comparably to the Chinese manufacturing sector.
In a stunning refutation of my opinion you called me a "dildo", and then said "EVERYONE knows that America is by far the world's leading producer."..how that jives with your statement just prior of " All industries are crashed and burned." I have no fucking clue.
See, as opposed to Dr. Bombay's ridiculing of you stating you didn't go to college, I said that made little difference. I take that back. See I studied politics for 4 years. Did an undergraduate thesis in developing world revolutionary political movements, in fact. I had to write a 200 page thesis and defend it to a board. So, see, I know how to, you now, state a fact, and then defend it to people attacking the argument I am making.
I have learned that trying to make oneself understood is not compromised of making a hyperbolic statement like "All industries are crashed and burned!" then stating it's practical opposite with "EVERYONE knows that America is by far the world's leading producer." and then when called on it, replying "Do you understand TheBlueDildo? your Mother never should have fucked the milk-man."
See, in my world, when people say shit like that to me it means all logical and communicative routes are gone and then I drive my thumb into their eye socket the next time they open their fat fucking mouth and infer something unsavory about my mother's character.
Say thank you you're not in my vicinity, asshole.
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Neocon Bump
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^^ If you majored in politics, then it is no wonder why you are so upset, and defensive when a high-school dropout (myself) can enter a political discussion, and hand you your ass on a silver platter.
In fact, your college major just confirms what I already know about you. Your a well-trained liar, you got an "A" in being full of shit, your an expert symantec-mister, your a spin-doctor.
And by the way, you cannot win a debate with me. Ever. Go ahead and try, bicycle-seat-sniffer.
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Just to be clear, anyone who thinks American manufacturing is healthy, thriving, growing, et all, is either mis-informed, ignorant, in denial or all of the above.
- go back to guatemala.DrBombay
- :DDrBombay
- I will run for President of Guatemala in 10 or so years, btw.********
- you should do it now.DrBombay
- 10 years (or so)... when it happens, you can say you knew me.********
- ... you can also be head of my security if you wish. Wait, bad idea. I forgot, you want me dead.********
- you are a fucking moron.DrBombay
- "President Moron" to you.********
- Guatemala needs a few good women that don't look like men, just sayin!********
- Ok, i'll give you that one Sans_Ghey. :-) My first agenda item will be the "importation of better looking women".********
- yes you can:)********
- "Change" that Guatemala can believe in.********
- TheBlueOne0
Just left you a message will. Fuck you you piece of shit.
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US industries in decline (as related to manufacturing)
1) Housing
2) Automobile
3) Machine Tools
4) Steel
5) Aluminum
6) Air Cargo
7) Commercial Printing
8) Commercial Packaging
9) Textiles
10) R&D (at-large)
11) Semiconductors
12) Food (Commercial and Retail, Produce and Beef)
13) PaperI could go on, and on.
Also, countless thousands of businesses, from start-up to "too big to fail" have "CRASHED and BURNED". I REPEAT: "CRASHED and BURNED". They are gone. Zippo. Nada. Dick.
- DrBombay0
You are absolutely starved for attention.
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^ Just proving my point. I am leaving now. Too hostile here for sure. Sorry if I "offended" your sensitive sides. Have fun talking about nothing, and see you at the revolution.
- DrBombay0
I hate your face
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One parting suggestion:
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
- WOPR0
parting?
neither of you are going anywhere... you'll be back here again tomorrow... and the next day and so on... :)
- WOPR0
you guys solve this shit yet?
- I solved your mother like a Rubik Cube ... bitch.tommyo
- Sorry Pony, I just felt a little left out of the cockfighting going on in here today.tommyo
- let's sword fight instead!!WOPR
- Kinky! Let's do it.tommyo
- yes, but I represented tommyo proud, right tommyo? LOL!********
- you have a toady, Tommy. hahahaha. How can he be down?DrBombay
- GR, seriously, no. TBO knows his shit, I might not agree with his politics 100% but the guy has brains. Take a break guy.tommyo
- Sorry, but TBO doesn't know jack shit. Don't be a sucker tommyo.********
- BattleAxe0
all shit talking aside,
list American products that you own over $100
as for me well
All Kitchen Appliances ,
washer - dryerother than that my PC (gateway) and MAC Book, were built in China or elsewhere in Asia
same for TV
cars we owe German and Japanese ;
people want things cheap so American companies will keep looking for the cheapest labor ;
right over the Boarder are the Maquilas (Factories) of hundreds of American Companies , as well as European , workers get Mexican wages and managers get American wages ,
our manufacturing is definitely not what it once was
- tommyo0
Fuck you Mr. Geithner.
Now he's asking for the Treasury to have the power to take over collapsing non banking financial companies. Last week he couldn't even admit that his office fucked up when it deliberately asked for a loophole for those AIG bonuses. Sooo what you're saying is that the government, actually the Treasury, has the intelligence and foresight to step in and handle a corporation fire sale, but they can't even seem to get a handle on policy and contracts for the financial corporations we already fucking own? mmmm yeah and April 15th I'll be hiring Stevie the Bum to do my taxes. I'm sure everything will work out well. Since you know, idealism and bravado is all that's really needed when financial solutions are called for ... pay no mind to the failures of the past everything will be fine.
I mean, as John Q Public over here are we at least putting 2 and 2 together and realizing that a majority of our problems right now stem nearly directly from government policy? Or at least a lack of government policy in some areas (i.e. failing to require matching capital behind credit default swaps) and sheer jaw dropping failure to recognize and address obvious problems before they become egg, on, face gigantic catastrophic issues (AIG Bonuses, TARP, Barney Franks fat fucking lying mouth, SEC + Madoff, Community Reinvestment Act, fuck even Enron belongs in this category). I call myself a libertarian and I'll come right out and say it, I don't mind a little gov action. The problem is this: Can any of you tell me that what we're getting from these people is anything more than proof that they're out of touch and completely ineffective? Show me some upside, cheer me up! Almost every day I feel like politically we're living a god damn Kafka novel ripe with that dreamlike void of tangible conscious action juxtaposed with fantasy like situations. We're just watching these morons burn the sails to save the rudder.
- Interesting article on this tommyo
http://www.rollingst…DCDesigns
- Interesting article on this tommyo
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The Catholic bishop of South Bend, Indiana, will not attend graduation ceremonies at the University of Notre Dame because he disagrees with the stem-cell research and abortion views of the commencement speaker -- President Obama.
shocker.....
