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- ukit0
GOP looking for designers!
http://www.redstate.com/erick/fi…
"Bottom line is if we haven’t done it - let’s do it. If we haven’t thought of it - think about it. If it hasn’t been tried – why not? If it’s going to be ‘outside the box’ – then not only keep it outside the box, but take it to someplace the box hasn’t even reached yet.”
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Should the US military help the Mexican military take down the drug cartels? If so, when? If not, why not?
- Yes, but only when they ask us for help. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that we probably already are.IRNlun6
- Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2 already called out this scenario********
- You're so full of shit. Link or FO.********
- ukit0
‘Government Sachs’
- utopian0
This thread needs a little love!
- BattleAxe0
"Should the US military help the Mexican military take down the drug cartels? If so, when? If not, why not? "
yup and its been happening
---" Admiral: Mexico can learn from U.S. work fighting terrorists"
"There are an awful lot of similarities," said Adm. Michael Mullen.
Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, spoke to reporters as he flew home from a weeklong visit to countries in Latin America, ending with Mexico on Friday.
"The intelligence support capabilities, tactics that evolved for us in our fight against networks in the terrorist world bears a direct application," Mullen said. "Certainly the kind of surveillance, reconnaissance doctrine that we use. And we've been working with them to cooperate with them as they've evolved. And they're evolving pretty rapidly."
In Mexico, Mullen, the top uniformed official in the U.S. military, discussed how the United States can continue to provide military training, intelligence and equipment to help Mexico fight the cartels.
- robco0
according to this, its better for our economy if the drug tafficking is allowed to continue. It not only helps subsidize our free labor resources in America, but it provides demand our ever-increasing social dependencies on pharmacutical drugs.
I'd wager that in the reality, the U.S. involvement with helping end the drug wars will be minimal.
- Because the "NEW" U.S.A. = The United States of Appeasement********
- Because the "NEW" U.S.A. = The United States of Appeasement
- omgitsacamera0
- Please bee nice, he's only a kid. :-)********
- looks like a very annoying brainwashed childutopian
- Alex P Keaton, 21-cen styleTheBlueOne
- Jonathan retorted, “Now that I’m a political pundit, I have the ability to influence people. I have to think about it!”
But first, his mother reminded him, he had some homework to finish.BattleAxe
- Please bee nice, he's only a kid. :-)
- TheBlueOne0
Love the Brits:
"After watching the slide in bank shares on Friday, one cabinet minister did not altogether joke when he said: "The banks are fucked, we're fucked, the country's fucked."
- hahah! that pretty much sums it up.designbot
- Hail the Chief!!!********
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Brits are also quite pissed at Obama for the lack of respect and crappy gifts that were afforded to Gordon Brown. One British journalist described Nobama as "rudeness personified toward Britain"...
Note to Obama:
Smarten the fuck up and make sure your bitch (or bitches) finds some appropriate gifts next time!!!- ehh, not as bad as when Nancy Reagan woudn't curtsy to the Queen. We' survive.Josev
- < "We'll"Josev
- And what, we're going to have a cold relationship with Britain due to Brown being unhappy with his gifts?Josev
- Boston— home to the ugliest women in the USA.********
- ugliest women, hmmh. I'm not sure what the point of that comment was, and since I'm gay I haven't really noticed.Josev
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Hero or Mustache Rider?
- joeth0
“The Great Disruption” — when both Mother Nature and Father Greed have hit the wall at once.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/0…
Say what you will about Friedman, but he is dead on about this.
- Friedman is a tool. Took him six years to figure out Iraq was a bad idea. Same deal here..TheBlueOne
- ...last guy onto the train and he thinks he's the conductor.TheBlueOne
- http://theminiblog.c…TheBlueOne
- Iraq was bad?********
- tommyo0
“But doesn’t the government have to act?” people ask. “We can’t just let financial companies fail!”
I say, “Why not?”
Jim Rogers, the successful investor and author, puts it well: “Why are we bailing out Citibank? Why are 300 million Americans having to pay for Citibank’s mistakes? The way the system is supposed to work [is this]: People fail. And then the competent people take over the assets from the failed people, and then you start again with a new, stronger base. What we’re doing this time is . . . taking the assets from the competent people, giving them to the incompetent people, and saying, ‘OK, now you can compete with the competent people.’ So everybody’s weakened: The whole nation is weakened, the whole economy is weakened. That’s not the way it’s supposed to work.”
- This is the solution that most people can not seem to wrap their heads around.designbot
- Agreed. People see that we have a problem and expect proactive solutions, which might be more harmful in the long run.tommyo
- agreed...the interesting thing is that people seem to think that if these entities are allowed to fail (especially banks) that their assets will vanish into thin air.designbot
- assets will vanish into thin air or something.designbot
- The part that gets me is that if part of the issue is confidence in these companies, how do these current solutions fix that?tommyo
- Right, I think the current market speaks to this fact....people do not trust the government for the solution.designbot
- It hurts confidence, where imo if someone new takes over, with new plans and new capital, it should gain confidence in the co.tommyo
- haha yep, you're right. Still they don't see that after every 'idea' they broadcast the DOW drops 200 - 300 points? Interesting.tommyo
- I love how you equate making changes to drops in the dow, who is to say the dow wouldn't drop anyway? Rise Anyway?DrBombay
- Wouldn't you expect that if it was a plan people believed in that the market would respond positively? I'm not saying thistommyo
- the only barometer, but just look at what happens after every new 'idea' from Paulson and now Geitner. Pretty clear imo.tommyo
- Is it really clear? I'm not so sure.DrBombay
- I guess you don't watch the DOW during and after big announcements then.tommyo
- I think doing that contributes to the problem.DrBombay
- Doing what?tommyo
- it will never go up off of any intervention using this technique, this shit is unprecedented.DrBombay
- I just have a fundamental disagreement with a complete hands off approach.DrBombay
- I do not think the market can figure this out on its own.DrBombay
- Still doesn't change the fact that there is little confidence in our gov ability to 'fix' the economy with their current plans.tommyo
- No I agree with you, the market is reactionary and not an accurate barometer. The only fact is that no one knows the 'fix'tommyo
- What's your 'fundamental issue' with a hands-off approach?tommyo
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- Bout time. I want my diabetes fixed! Bush was very much on the wrong side of this one.tommyo
- This actually pisses me off, but whatever. Obama is a hard core pro-choicer so I'm not surprised.designbot
- how do you feel about in vitro? As against it as you are against abortion? Same result, dead babies.DrBombay
- honestly I think it's bizarre and wrong. And from a more pragmatic standpoint, there are plenty of kids in need of adoption.designbot
- adoption.designbot
- at least you are consistent, many people aren't.DrBombay
- My problem is Republicans say, "We shouldn't play God", yet Cheney has a pacemaker.rylamar
- robotron3k0
In other news, looks like H. R. Bill 1014 has begun making the rounds supposedly to amend the IRS tax code for the District of Columbia. http://www.opencongress.org/bill…
on line 12) states:
"In keeping with the early history and democratic traditions of the United States.... the residents of the District of Columbia should be EXEMPT FROM PAYING UNITED STATES FEDERAL INCOME TAXES."
...so if this bill does pass, we all should be looking at making a "temporary" permanent home in the District of Columbia to save a fortune on taxes.
- tommyo0
I know this story is a tad old at this point but I don't think I saw it posted here before. Anyhow, I can't believe I'm actually going to post a quote from Putin but here but here is a guy who has witnessed the effects of heavy handed government intervention.
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You know things are out of control when Communist China is lecturing democrats on protectionism and now the former head of the KGB is lecturing US democrats against socialism.
The Right Perspective and Pat Dollard reported:Russian Prime Minister Vladamir Putin has said the US should take a lesson from the pages of Russian history and not exercise “excessive intervention in economic activity and blind faith in the state’s omnipotence”.
“In the 20th century, the Soviet Union made the state’s role absolute,” Putin said during a speech at the opening ceremony of the World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. “In the long run, this made the Soviet economy totally uncompetitive. This lesson cost us dearly. I am sure nobody wants to see it repeated.”
Sounding more like Barry Goldwater than the former head of the KGB, Putin said, “Nor should we turn a blind eye to the fact that the spirit of free enterprise, including the principle of personal responsibility of businesspeople, investors, and shareholders for their decisions, is being eroded in the last few months. There is no reason to believe that we can achieve better results by shifting responsibility onto the state.”
- I can't believe you are posting a quote from Putin either.DrBombay
- "witnessed the effects of heavy handed government". You mean "IS",not witnessed.TheBIueOne
- Yes true.tommyo
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Putin is holding a ace in his pocket. He is just waiting to use it and it could seriously blow things wide open.
- What? Natural gas?TheBIueOne
- how we sank the Kursk and kept it under wraps.********
- Isn't Russia in even worse shape than us?ukit
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- i'm rivited!robotron3k
- Yeah I'm watching this too. 2/3 is nuts where they sedate the woman. Welcome to Russia eh.tommyo
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- DrBombay0
6000!
- joeth0
The campaigning continues...
