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For the record:
1) I said: ..."before HE get's bitch-slapped" (not you, TBO).
2) I never said I would do the bitch-slapping.
3) You said you were leaving the thread for awhile (wah, wah, wah). Oh I forgot, your a Dem. Your much more prone to acting like an whiner.
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Furthermore...
The Left:
Extreme, hard-core protesters. Violent. Regularly create mayhem. Hurt and kill people. Get billy-clubbed and shot with rubber bullets on a regular basis.
The Right:
Not applicableThe Left:
Character assassins
(Did the Right viciously smear and defame M. Obama and/or her children? No.)
The Right:
Not applicable
(Did the Left viciously smear and defame S. Palin, J. McCain and their children? Yes.)The Left:
Welfare Specialists and Monetary Thieves. Believes that motivated earners should give 1/2, or more of their money to uneducated, unmotivated lazy-asses who would rather smoke the pipe than work.
The Right:
No commentNOTE: This commentary is not meant to inflame, but rather, represent factual data, thus, can be considered the truth.
Rebuttal? No troll-like answers please.
- Whoa. Not factual.waterhouse
- Holes galore.waterhouse
- LOL! Holes? Let's fill them then. :-) Where do we start?********
- left right left right leftBattleAxe
- Yes, answering a question with a question. Is there ever a time to question your own beliefs?IRNlun6
- I'll elaborate... have you ever asked yourself; Is it only the left that is guilty of extreme partisanship?IRNlun6
- ... that's not part of my post. OF COURSE, partisanship exists.********
- fair enough.IRNlun6
- DrBombay0
Not sure why I am doing this but:
What political affiliation do you reckon all of the bailed out bankers are? Liberal Democrats? Are they thieves or not? Get your head out of your ass.
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Leader of the Senate Banking Committee for the last few years (when everything went to extreme hell)= Democrat, Chris DoddThe Fair Housing Act
In addition to being run by Chris Dodd, add Democratic conspirators, Congressman and thief, Barney Frank, and Nancy "Adolph" Pelosi. Ranking cheerleaders, and proponents that encouraged and allowed ANYONE (yes, crack-pipe smokers and illegal aliens included) to purchase a home— they sleep with and otherwise, aid Freddie and Fannie.Do you refute?
P.s.: During his short tenure as Senator, Barack Obama spent $1 Million Dollars per day, on average, in earmark spending. In his first month as President, he's spent more than $1 Trillion. Please connect the dots.
- TheBlueOne0
So, when asked what are his thoughts about the current economic crisis he says "Well the poor people caused it. And those socialist democrats. Cause they smoke the crack pipe and are lazy. And, oh yeah, the are character assassins and those on the Right like me, we don't do that. Although I just did. But that doesn't count, because I'm not a lazy, crack smoking welfare receiving democrat. Only they indulge in character assassination....oh wait, while I'm at it I'll through "Adolf" into a sly jibe at the Democratic House speaker while I spread some more half truths about how Democrats caused the banks to fail."
Fuck you WIll.
- DrBombay0
Some economists state that the 1999 legislation spearheaded by Gramm and signed into law by President Clinton — the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act — was partly to blame for the 2007 subprime mortgage crisis and 2008 global economic crisis.[8][9] The Act is most widely known for repealing portions of the Glass-Steagall Act, which had regulated the financial services industry. Gramm responded to criticism of the act by stating that he saw "no evidence whatsoever" that the sub-prime mortgage crisis was caused in any way "by allowing banks and securities companies and insurance companies to compete against each other."[10] The Act, it should be noted, passed the House by an overwhelming majority and passed by unanimous consent in the Senate, though it was introduced on the last day before Christmas holiday and never debated by either congressional body. [11]
The Washington Post in 2008 named Gramm one of seven "key players" responsible for winning a 1998-1999 fight against regulation of derivatives trading.[12] Gramm's support was later critical in the passage of the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000, which kept derivatives transactions, including those involving credit default swaps, free of government regulation.[13]
2008 Nobel Laureate in Economics Paul Krugman, a supporter of Barack Obama, described Gramm during the 2008 presidential race as "the high priest of deregulation," and has listed him as the number two person responsible for the economic crisis of 2008 behind only Alan Greenspan.[14][15] On October 14, 2008, CNN ranked Gramm number seven in its list of the 10 individuals most responsible for the current economic crisis.[16] In January 2009 Guardian City editor Julia Finch identified him as one of twenty-five people who were at the heart of the financial meltdown. [17] An Internet poll currently ranks Gramm #1 among 25 people selected by Time as candidates to blame for the economic crisis. [18]
- TheBlueOne0
"The Left:
Extreme, hard-core protesters. Violent. Regularly create mayhem. Hurt and kill people. Get billy-clubbed and shot with rubber bullets on a regular basis.
The Right:
Not applicable"
"The Left:
Welfare Specialists and Monetary Thieves."
- More than fucking applicable asshole. Fits like a fucking glove.TheBlueOne
- GOLD!********
- Hahahaha! Touché! :-)********
- no it isn't touche, you got your ass handed to you.DrBombay
- oooh... my ass handed to me.********
- BattleAxe0
meanwhile
Mexico troops enter drug war city
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/ameri…
More than 1,500 Mexican troops have moved into a city on the US border being fought over by rival drug gangs.
- And where did the drug gangs buy there weapons? From US gun dealers.TheBlueOne
- Watched a ting on this on "60 Minutes," the death toll is unreal.harlequino
- Where's NObama? He barly talks about the war, mexico or national security in general.********
- TheBlueOne0
"The Left:
Character assassins""Where's NObama? "
-GetRefreshIt's President Obama. Show some respect you character assassin.
- BattleAxe0
just yesterday , 20 dead in prison battle
translation is a bit off
A battle leaves 20 dead in a confrontation between the Aztecs, Mexiclan Murderers and Artists at the state dentention center and the State dismissed reports of guards and federal agents who died.
Authorities reported seven people injured, including a gravity that is in the operating room.
The uprising began shortly after 6 am, after the end of the conjugal visits.
A group of inmates put the security guard that monitors the input to the module 5, which are members of a rival gang, to initiate trifulca.
Having completed its task, the killing of members of the opposing side, the attackers gave an enchanting weapon to officers.
There is talk that the deceased belonged to the gang of Mexiclan Murderers and artists, thus pointing to the Aztecs as the aggressors.
It took authorities three levels of government to control the brawl which lasted nearly three hours.
According to César Martínez Acosta, director of the prison, this is the first violent incident to be recorded since it started operations four years ago the prison.
Martinez Acosta denied the rumors that it was a riot and had died in the incident two federal agents.
Cereso The State is under siege by agents of the Federal Preventive Police, the State Agency for Investigation and elements of the Army and troops from the Ciudad Juárez Municipal Police.
- http://www.diario.co…BattleAxe
- ... and where's the acknowledgment from "President Obama"? Oh ya, he's for protectionism. He doesn't give an F!********
- ... doesn't give an F!********
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^Ooohhh, I am so vicious to call him NoBama! LOL!!! So sorry to hurt your little, teeny, weeny feelings.
- Leaving now. Talk about me negatively, and freely.********
- you're used to itephix
- Leaving now. Talk about me negatively, and freely.
- BattleAxe0
how much national or international attention is the war in Mexico getting ?
anyone ?,
here it gets plenty since well its right next door ,
- In the northeast, I'd say zero. Except for pieces of 60 min, and stuff like that.harlequino
- I hear about it every day, but it is very surface level.DrBombay
- and I read a lot of newsDrBombay
- Actual lots of mexicans here in NY suburbs. Lots of chatter.TheBlueOne
- DrBombay0
You were born in 1966 and say LOL...
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Mr. Obama lied today on national television when giving his healthcare speech. He said that healthcare costs cause a business to file bankruptcy every 30 seconds.
A BALD-FACED LIE. How does this make you feel? "Lies You Can Believe In"...
- let's see your stats that prove him wrong.DrBombay
- Seek your own education. You OWE it to yourself.********
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The people of California voted against Gay Marriage. Should't the book be closed on this matter? Why do 5 Superior Court judges get to potentially reverse the People's decision???
- Because our government is fucked.********
- you hate teh gheyDrBombay
- I think gays should be entitled to ALL of the same benefits as married couples.********
- Because our government is fucked.
- ukit0
You're leaving again? How many times can you arrive and leave in one day?
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... WOW! The Dem House passed a bill today allowing judges slash home payments... WTF!!!
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Read this unless you're an Obama pussy
THE STIMULUS IS A STEP TOWARDS A SOVIET AMERICA Written by Senator Tom Coburn Tuesday, 10 February 2009
[Senator Coburn recently gave this speech on the floor of the Senate]"We are going in exactly the wrong direction. We ought to be standing on the principles that made this country great.
There ought to be a review of every program in the Federal Government that is not effective, that is not efficient, that is wasteful or fraudulent, and we ought to get rid of it right now. We ought to say, Gone, to be able to pay for a real stimulus plan that might, in fact, have some impact.
I would be remiss if I didn't remind everybody that next week we are going to hear from the Obama administration wanting another $500 billion. Outside of this ["stimulus" bill], they are going to want another $500 billion to handle the banking system.
I want to make sure the American people know what is in this Stimulus bill. I think once they know what is in this bill, they are going to reject it out of hand. Let me read for my colleagues some of the things that are in this bill.The biggest earmark in history is in this bill. There is $2 billion in this bill to build a coal plant with zero emissions. That would be great, maybe, if we had the technology, but the greatest brains in the world sitting at MIT say we don't have the technology yet to do that.
Why would we build a $2 billion power plant we don't have the technology for that we know will come back and ask for another $2 billion and another $2 billion and another $2 billion when we could build a demonstration project that might cost $150 million or $200 million? There is nothing wrong with having coal-fired plants that don't produce pollution; I am not against that. Even the Washington Post said the technology isn't there. It is a boondoggle. Why would we do that?We eliminated tonight a $246 million payback for the large movie studios in Hollywood.
We are going to spend $88 million to study whether we ought to buy a new ice breaker for the Coast Guard. You know what. The Coast Guard needs a new ice breaker. Why do we need to spend $88 million? They have two ice breakers now that they could retrofit and fix and come up with equivalent to what they needed to and not spend the $1 billion they are going to come back and ask for, for another ice breaker, so why would we spend $88 million doing that?
We are going to spend $448 million to build the Department of Homeland Security a new building. We have $1.3 trillion worth of empty buildings right now, and because it has been blocked in Congress we can't sell them, we can't raze them, we can't do anything, but we are going to spend money on a new building here in Washington.
We are going to spend another $248 million for new furniture for that building; a quarter of a billion dollars for new furniture. What about the furniture the Department of Homeland Security has now? These are tough times. Should we be buying new furniture? How about using what we have? That is what a family would do. They would use what they have. They wouldn't go out and spend $248 million on furniture.
How about buying $600 million worth of hybrid vehicles? Do you know what I would say? Right now times are tough; I would rather Americans have new cars than Federal employees have new cars. What is wrong with the cars we have? Dumping $600 million worth of used vehicles on the used vehicle market right now is one of the worst things we could do. Instead, we are going to spend $600 million buying new cars for Federal employees.
There is $400 million in here to prevent STDs. I have a lot of experience on that. I have delivered 4,000 babies. We don't need to spend $400 million on STDs. What we need to do is properly educate about the infection rates and the effectiveness of methods of prevention. That doesn't take a penny more. You can write that on one piece of paper and teach every kid in this country, but we don't need to spend $400 million on it. It is not a priority.
How about $150 million for a Smithsonian museum? Tell me how that helps get us out of a recession. Tell me how that is a priority. Would the average American think that is a priority that we ought to be mortgaging our kids' future to spend another $150 million at the Smithsonian?
How about $1 billion for the 2010 census? So everybody knows, the census is so poorly managed that the census in 2010 is going to cost twice what it cost 10 years ago, and we wasted $800 million on a contract because it was no-bid that didn't perform. Nobody got fired, no competitive bidding, and we blew $800 million.
We have $75 million for smoking cessation activities, which probably is a great idea, but we just passed a bill, the SCHIP bill, that we need to get 21 million more Americans smoking to be able to pay for that bill. That doesn't make sense.
How about $200 million for public computer centers at community colleges? I mean, did we talk with Dell and Hewlett-Packard and say, How do we make you all do better? Is there not a market force that could make that better? Will we actually buy on a true competitive bid?
No, because there is nothing that requires competitive bidding in anything in this bill. There is nothing that requires it. It is one of the things President Obama said he was going to mandate at the Federal Government, but there is no competitive bidding in this bill at all.We have $10 million to inspect canals in urban areas. Well, that will put 10 or 15 people to work. Is that a priority for us right now?
There is $6 billion to turn Federal buildings into green buildings. That is a priority, versus somebody getting a job outside of Washington, a job that actually produces something, that actually increases wealth?
How about $500 million for State and local fire stations? Where do you find in the Constitution us paying for local fire stations within our realm of prerogatives? None of it is competitively bid.
Next is $1.2 billion for youth activities. Who does that employ? What does that mean?
How about $88 million for renovating the public health service building? You know, if we could sell half of the $1.3 trillion worth of properties we have, we could take care of every Federal building requirement and backlog we have.
Then there's $412 million for CDC [Centers for disease Control] buildings and property. We spent billions on a new center and headquarters for CDC. Is that a priority? If we are going to spend $412 million on building buildings, let's build one that will produce something, one that will give us something.
How about $850 million for that most ``efficient'' Amtrak that hasn't made any money since 1976 and continues to have $2 billion or $3 billion a year in subsidies?
Here is one of my favorites: $75 million to construct a new ``security training'' facility for State Department security officers. We already have four other facilities already available to train them. But they want theirs. By the way, it is going to be in West Virginia. I wonder how that got here.
So we are going to build a new training facility that duplicates four others that we already have that could easily do what we need to do. But because we have a stimulus package, we are going to add in oink pork.How about $200 million in funding for a lease - not buying, but a lease - of alternative energy vehicles on military installations?
We are going to bail out the States on Medicaid. Total all of the health programs in this, and we are going to transfer $150 billion out of the private sector and we are going to move it to the Federal Government. You talk about backdoor-ing national health care.
Henry Waxman has to be smiling big today. He wants a single-payer Government-run health care system. We are going to move another $150 billion to the Federal Government from the private sector.
We are going to eliminate fees on loans from the Small Business Administration. You know what that does? That pushes productive capital to unproductive projects. It is exactly the wrong thing to do.We are going to spend $524 million for information technology upgrades that the Appropriations Committee claims will create 388 jobs. If you do the math on that, that is $1.5 million a job. Don't you love the efficiency of Washington thinking?
We are going to create $79 billion in additional money for the States, a ``slush fund,'' to bail out States and provide millions of dollars for education costs. How many of you think that will ever go away?
Once the State education programs get $79 billion over 2 years, do you think that will ever go away? The cry and hue of taking "our money" away, even though it was a stimulus and supposed to be limited, it will never go away. So we will continue putting that forward until our kids have grandkids of their own.There is about $47 billion for a variety of energy programs that are primarily focused on renewable energy. I am fine with spending that. But we ought to get something for it. There ought to be metrics. There are no metrics. It is pie in the sky, saying we will throw some money at it.
Let me conclude by saying we are at a seminal moment in our country. We will either start living within the confines of realism and responsibility or we will blow it and we will create the downfall of the greatest nation that ever lived.
This bill is the start of that downfall. To abandon a market-oriented society and transfer it to a Soviet-style, government-centered, bureaucratic-run and mandated program, that is the thing that will put the stake in the heart of freedom in this country.
I hope the American people know what is in this bill. I am doing everything I can to make sure they know. But more important, I hope somebody is listening who will treat the ``pneumonia'' we are faced with today, which is the housing and mortgage markets. It doesn't matter how much money we spend in this bill. It is doomed to failure unless we fix that problem first.
Failing that, we will go down in history as the Congress that undermined the future and vitality of this country. Let it not be so.- Cost of Iraq - $602,266,871,910. You were saying?********
- Yeah now is the time to cut social services, when you need them most.DrBombay
- Well done Hurley. DrB. shouldn't we fix the economy FIRST, then worry about other stuff later???********
- how do you propose we do that? By cutting Trump's taxes? gimme specifics you fucking dumbshit troll.DrBombay
- this will most likely be the last note on this post, at least no specifics from getrefuctDrBombay
- Obama Pussy ! LOLBattleAxe
- Cost of Iraq - $602,266,871,910. You were saying?
- designbot0
I understand the validity of posting the absurd ammount of money we have spent in Iraq (pisses me off too), but how is that an argument that we should spend more?
- pretty convenient actually.DrBombay
- ... and when are the Dems going to stop looking (and blaming) backwards, and instead, look forward???********
- strangle the economy by spending it with republican contributing companies, oops no more $ leftDrBombay
- it happens with local gov's all the time, why would it be any different?DrBombay
- guatemala is better?DrBombay
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i just like to point out on how the last Republican Regime has burned all of that $$ for nothing. Also, how the right is up in arms over the amount for the Stimulus Bill knowing damn well that McCain would of had a plan passed if he was in office.
By no way is it an argument to spend more.
- I got ya :)designbot
- I don't get it. WHY bring McCain into this????? JESUS CHRIST (code name for Obama)!!!********
- because McCain is trying like fuck to gain leadership in that party.DrBombay
- love how everything has to do with the president now, but when it was Bush it just wasn't like that.DrBombay
- I wasn't a member here when Bush was in office.********
- And, Bush did PLENTY to piss me off, no doubt.********
- not with this name anyway, pretty strange that you need to point that out.DrBombay
- You're strange (but in a good way, I think).********