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  • mg330

    Here are some thoughts of my own for the day.

    1) The Republican conservative media have made their most glaringly obvious gaffe of all by saying that Obama said "redistribution of wealth" in that 2001 article. The word wealth wasn't used anywhere in that paragraph, and it's bluntly obvious to anyone with half a brain that, taken in context, Obama was talking about redistribution of education and civil rights efforts. NOT A THING ABOUT MONEY, FINANCES, WEALTH, TAKING OTHERS MONEY.

    2) Did anyone watch the Sean Hannity interview with the McCains? What a load of garbage. If anyone can actually call Hannity a journalist with a straight face, I'd like to know who they are. Softball questions on a silver platter for the McCains, laced with personal hatred and vindictiveness towards Obama. Sean Hannity has no soul.

    3) Did anyone see the interview that John Stewart did on the Daily Show WITH the actual Socialist Party candidate? It was absolutely hilarious, watching THE SOCIALIST CANDIDATE describe every single way that Obama is NOT a socialist.

    4) McCain's 11th hour hail mary... who is it going to effect? The independents he's going for - you know, the dumb population who they've tried to influence with Ayers, terrorists, etc. - are not going to know what in the world the word "redistributionist" even means.

    • Hannity doesn't call himself a journalist - he openly admits he's a commentator. He is however... a tool. :)turk_182
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    A little long, but worth it. Another email from the Right wing fuckos.

    Why I Can't Vote For Obama
    By Huntley Brown

    Dear Friends, A few months ago I was asked for my perspective on Obama, I sent out an email with a few points. With the election just around the corner I decided to complete my perspective. Those of you on my e-list have seen some of this before but it's worth repeating...

    First I must say whoever wins the election will have my prayer support. Obama needs to be commended for his accomplishments but I need to explain why I will not be voting for him.

    Many of my friends process their identity through their blackness. I process my identity through Christ. Being a Christian (a Christ follower) means He leads I follow. I can't dictate the terms He does because He is the leader.

    I can't vote black because I am black; I have to vote Christian because that's who I am. Christian first, black second. Neither should anyone from the other ethnic groups vote because of ethnicity. 200 years from now I won't be asked if I was black or white. I will be asked if I knew Jesus and accepted Him as Lord and Savior.

    In an election there are many issues to consider but when a society gets abortion, same-sex marriage, embryonic stem-cell research, human cloning to name a few, wrong economic concerns will soon not matter.

    We need to follow Martin Luther King's words, don't judge someone by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. I don't know Obama so all I can go off is his voting record. His voting record earned him the title of the most liberal senator in the US Senate in 2007.

    NATIONAL JOURNAL: Obama: Most Liberal Senator in 2007 (01/31/2008)

    To beat Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton as the most liberal senator, takes some doing. Obama accomplished this feat in 2 short years. I wonder what would happen to America if he had four years to work with.

    There is a reason Planned Parenthood gives him a 100 % rating. There is a reason the homosexual community supports him. There is a reason Ahmadinejad, Chavez, Castro, Hamas etc. love him. There is a reason he said he would nominate liberal judges to the Supreme Court. There is a reason he voted against the infanticide bill. There is a reason he voted No on the constitutional ban of same-sex marriage. There is a reason he voted No on banning partial birth abortion. There is a reason he voted No on confirming Justices Roberts and Alito. These two judges are conservatives and they have since overturned partial birth abortion. The same practice Obama wanted to continue.

    Let's take a look at the practice he wanted to continue

    The 5 Step Partial Birth Abortion procedures:

    A. Guided by ultrasound, the abortionist grabs the baby's leg with forceps. (Remember this is a live baby)
    B. The baby's leg is pulled out into the birth canal.
    C. The abortionist delivers the baby's entire body, except for the head.
    D. The abortionist jams scissors into the baby's skull. The scissors are then opened to enlarge the hole.
    E. The scissors are removed and a suction catheter is inserted. The child's brains are sucked out, causing the skull to collapse. The dead baby is then removed.

    God help him. There is a reason Obama opposed the parental notification law.

    Think about this: You can't give a kid an aspirin without parental notification but that same kid can have an abortion without parental notification. This is insane.

    There is a reason he went to Jeremiah Wright's church for 20 years.

    Obama tells us he has good judgment but he sat under Jeremiah Wright teaching for 20 years. Now he is condemning Wright's sermons. I wonder why now?

    Obama said Jeremiah Wright led him to the Lord and discipled him. A disciple is one in training. Jesus told us in Matthew 28:19 - 20 'Go and make disciples of all nations.' This means reproduce yourself. Teach people to think like you, walk like you; talk like you believe what you believe etc. The question I have is what did Jeremiah Wright teach him?

    Would you support a White President who went to a church which has tenets that said they have a ...

    1. Commitment to the White Community
    2. Commitment to the White Family
    3. Adherence to the White Work Ethic
    4. Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the White Community.
    5. Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting White Institutions
    6. Pledge allegiance to all White leadership who espouse and embrace the White Value System
    7. Personal commitment to embracement of the White Value System.

    Would you support a President who went to a church like that?

    Just change the word from white to black and you have the tenets of Obama's former church. If President Bush was a member of a church like this, he would be called a racist. Jessie Jackson and Al Sharpton would have been marching outside.

    This kind of church is a racist church. Obama did not wake up after 20 years and just discovered he went to a racist church. The church can't be about race. Jesus did not come for any particular race. He came for the whole world.

    A church can't have a value system based on race. The churches value system has to be based on biblical mandate. It does not matter if it始s a white church or a black church it's still wrong. Anyone from either race that attends a church like this would never get my vote.

    Obama's former Pastor Jeremiah Wright is a disciple of liberal theologian James Cone, author of the 1970 book A Black Theology of Liberation. Cone once wrote: 'Black theology refuses to accept a God who is not identified totally with the goals of the black community. If God is not for us and against white people, then he is a murderer, and we had better kill him.

    Cone is the man Obama's mentor looks up to. Does Obama believe this?

    So what does all this mean for the nation?

    In the past when the Lord brought someone with the beliefs of Obama to lead a nation it meant one thing - judgment.

    Read 1 Samuel 8 when Israel asked for a king. First God says in 1 Samuel 8:9 'Now listen to them ; but warn them solemnly and let them know what the king who will reign over them will do.'

    Then God says

    1 Samuel 8:18 ' When that day comes, you will cry out for relief from the king you have chosen, and the LORD will not answer you in that day.' 19 But the people refused to listen to Samuel. 'No!' they said. 'We want a king over us. 20 Then we will be like all the other nations, with a king to lead us and to go out before us and fight our battles.' 21 When Samuel heard all that the people said, he repeated it before the LORD. 22 The LORD answered, 'Listen to them and give them a king.'

    Here is what we know for sure.

    God is not schizophrenic

    He would not tell one person to vote for Obama and one to vote for McCain. As the scripture says, a city divided against itself cannot stand, so obviously many people are not hearing from God.

    Maybe I am the one not hearing but I know God does not change and Obama contradicts many things I read in scripture so I doubt it.

    For all my friends who are voting for Obama can you really look God in the face and say; Father based on your word, I am voting for Obama even though I know he will continue the genocidal practice of partial birth abortion. He might have to nominate three or four Supreme Court justices, and I am sure he will be nominating liberal judges who will be making laws that are against you. I also know he will continue to push for homosexual rights, even though you destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah for this. I know I can look the other way because of the economy.

    I could not see Jesus agreeing with many of Obama's positions. Finally I have two questions for all my liberal friends.

    Since we know someone's value system has to be placed on the nation,

    1. Whose value system should be placed on the nation.

    2. Who should determine that this is the right val ue system for the nation?

    Blessings, Huntley Brown

    • once he mentions Christ his argument becomes irrelevantlackofcolor
    • that's not how all abortions take placemegE
    • I thought we talked about these posts? The length... oi oi
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    • its a email, shut your trap ;)
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    • this guy is a nutjob.DrBombay
    • I stopped at "I have to vote christian".Meeklo
    • "I could not see Jesus agreeing with many of Obama's positions."
      Garanteed he's going to hell

      Meeklo
    • If these nutjobs think abortion is the major issue, then they are seriously deluded.BusterBoy
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    • sorry i didnt realize this had already been postedmegE
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nad…

    Auchi was a member of the Baath Party in Iraq before Saddam Hussein came to power. While he denies any ties to Hussein's government, British media reports indicate he sold naval ships to Hussein’s government in the 1980s.

    In 2008 Stuart Levine, the U.S. government's star witness in the corruption trial against Rezko, asserted that Barack Obama and his wife, Michelle, were among the guests at party in Auchi's honor that took place at Rezko's residence on 3 April 2004.

    • Again, just BO's associations. Not exactly smart. You have to question his character.
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    • mccain was part of the S&L scandal of the 80's. What is your point?DrBombay
    • Questioning the associations of either if it makes you happy. Choosing the lesser of the two evils, I would think.
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    • I just saw this today.
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    • you have 2 choices, that is it. while you are slating obama you are supporting mccain, whether u like it or not.DrBombay
    • So I obviously wasted my breath upthread about media made distractions then...TheBlueOne
    • Dunno... hard to decipher the truth from the fluff.
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  • DrBombay0

    quoting bible verses is creepy as shit.

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    what are the eschatological implications with McCain being unbaptized?

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    At the time of McCain's call, Scheunemann had formally ceased his own lobbying work for Georgia, according to federal disclosure reports. But he was still part of Orion Strategies, which had only two lobbyists, himself and Mike Mitchell.

    Scheunemann remained with the firm for another month, until May 15, when the McCain campaign imposed a tough new anti-lobbyist policy and he was required to separate himself from the company.

    Rogers said Scheunemann "receives no compensation of any type from Orion Strategies and has not since May 15, 2008." Scheunemann declined to be interviewed for this story.

    As a private lobbyist trying to influence lawmakers and Bush administration staffers, Scheunemann at times relied on his access to McCain in his work for foreign clients on Capitol Hill. He and his partner reported 71 phone conversations and meetings with McCain and his top advisers since 2004 on behalf of foreign clients, including Georgia, according to forms they filed with the Justice Department.

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    Charlie Black is John McCain's chief political adviser and formerly a partner at the lobbying firm he founded, BKSH & Associates. He took leave from the firm earlier this year.

    The firm's client list have included military contractor Blackwater Worldwide and Phillip Morris, as well as Angolan warlord Jonas Savimbi, and former dictators Ferdinand Marcos of the Philipenes and Mobutu Sese Seko of Zaire (now the Democratic Republic of Congo).

    Last year Black was registered to lobby on behalf of 29 clients, including AT&T, Lockheed Martin, Occidental Petroleum, and JP Morgan Chase.

    Charlie Black has earned more than $1.8 million representing the Occidental Petroleum Corporation, the leading foreign producer of gas and oil in Colombia. Significant in view of McCain's trip this week to Columbia.

    Other Clients include:

    Philippine President Ferdinand Marcos, who looted his country during his reign and whose totalitarian regime was marked by human rights abuses.

    Angolan Guerilla leader Jonas Savimbi, who brutally murdered and tortured civilians and planted land mines in his own country.

    Mobutu Sese Seko of Zaire, who tortured and publicly executed political rivals, and pillaged his country's resources, enriching himself as the people of Zaire starved.

    Nigerian Gen. Ibrahim Babangida, who supressed opposition political parties, and had a magazine editor critical of his abuses murdered.

    Somali dictator Mohamed Siad Barre, whose army slaughtered 5,000 unarmed civillians in ten months.

    • What in God's name do you know of Jonas Savimbi of Angola? Got news for you, he fought agains the MPLA
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    • boy scout
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    • http://en.wikipedia.… which BTW has it's roots in Communism. http://en.wikipedia.…
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    • Of course the USA would support Savimbi during the Cold War, the Russians supported the MPLA and
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    • dos Santos. http://en.wikipedia.…
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    • and now dos Santos is your A-typical African dicatator.
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    Rick Davis is John McCain's campaign manager from both this election cycle and McCain's run in 2000. However, he recently turned over day-to-day campaign operations to another staffer.
    Davis took leave in 2006 from the lobbying firm he founded, Davis Manafort, in which he retains an ownership stake. Davis Manafort's client list has included Verizon and SBC Communications and Ukranian holding company System Capital Management. Although he has not been registered as a lobbyist for two years, his firm was actively involved working as an unregistered lobbyist representing the interests abroad of foreign politicians and businessmen. In 2006 Davis’s firm represented Viktor Yanukovich, a Ukranian politician opposed by the U.S. Government because of his ties to Vladimir Putin.

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  • robotron3k0

    • doh! been posted, still i thought it was a good motion project by Ursa Minor in cali...robotron3k
  • DrBombay0

    Here is my bottom line. The economy is fucked with low tax rates for rich people, which we were told would create jobs like crazy and blah blah blah. So take their tax cuts away, it didn't work. Fuck them.

    • Kinda cheeky, but I still believe it.DrBombay
    • Obama's plan encourages an increase in the size of the underclass.
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    • explainDrBombay
    • He's the great equalizer of all non-employed people and will drive American people to the LCD of mediocrity.
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    • you learned absolutely nothing from TBO.DrBombay
    • you can predict the future can you?
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    • your statement is ridiculous\ and says nothing towards mine.DrBombay
    • read into it.
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    • I am not trying to decipher the words of a dipshit, sorry.DrBombay
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    John McCain in the Echo Chamber
    By Gore Vidal

    October proved to be the cruelest month, for that was the time that Sen. McCain, he of the round, blank, Little Orphan Annie eyes, chose to try out a number of weird lies about Barack Obama ostensibly in the interest of a Republican Party long overdue for burial.

    It is a wonder that any viewer survived his furious October onslaught whose craziest lie was that Obama wished to become president in order to tax the poor in the interest of a Democratic Party in place, as he put it in his best 1936 voice, to spend and spend because that’s what Democrats always do. This was pretty feeble lying, even in such an age as ours. But it was the only thing that had stuck with him from those halcyon years when Gov. Alfred M. Landon was the candidate of the Grand Old Party, which in those days was dedicated to erasing every policy of Franklin Delano Roosevelt, whose electoral success was due to, they thought, Harry Hopkins’ chilling mantra, “we shall ... spend and spend and elect and elect.” Arguably, the ignorant McCains of this world have no idea what any of this actually signifies; Hopkins’ comment is a serious one, and serious matters seldom break through to cliché-ridden minds.

    Although I am no fan of the television of my native land, I thought that an election featuring two historic novelties—the first credible female candidate for president and the first black nominee—would be great historic television, yet I should have been suspicious whenever I looked at McCain’s malicious little face, plainly bent on great mischief. Whenever Obama made a sensible point, McCain was ready to trump it with a gorgeous lie.

    When Obama said that only a small percentage of the middle class would suffer from income tax during his administration, McCain would start gabbling the 1936 Republican mantra that this actually meant that he would spend and spend and spend in order to spread the money around, a mild joke he has told for the benefit of a plumber who is looking forward to fiscal good fortune and so feared the tax man, using language very like that of long-dead socialists to reveal Obama’s sinister games.

    Advice to Obama: No civilized asides are permitted in McCain Land, where every half-understood word comes from the shadowy bosses of a diabolic Democratic Party, eager to steal the money of the poor in order to benefit, perversely, the even poorer.

    So October (my natal month) was no joy for me, as the degradation of our democratic process was being McCainized. McCain is a prisoner of the past. Later, in due course he gave us the old address book treatment: names from Obama’s past, each belonging to a potential terrorist. Even from the corpse of the Republican Party, which Abraham Lincoln left somewhat hastily in the 19th century, this was an unusually sickening display.

    Happily, physicists assure us that there is no action without reaction.

    There were still a few bright glimmers of something larger than a mere candidate of the Republican Party, but Mr. McCain seems to be in the terminal throes of a self-love that causes him to regard himself as a great American hero. From time to time, he likes to shout at us, “I have fought in many, many wars,” and, “I have won many of them,” but he has, so far, never told us which were the ones that he has actually won, since every war that he has graced with his samurai presence seems to have been thoroughly lost by the United States. Consistency is all-important to the born loser as well as to the committed liar.

    So what little fame he has rests on the fact that he was taken a prisoner of war by the Vietnamese—hardly a recommendation for the leadership of the “free world”—and thus aware of the meagerness of his own curriculum vitae, for his vice presidential choice he then turned radically, in the age of the awakening to power of women, to an Alaskan politician; a giggly Piltdown princess out of pre-history.

    Her qualification? She has once been mayor (or was it “mare”?) of an Alaskan village and later governor of what had been known as “Seward’s Icebox,” named for Lincoln’s secretary of state, William Seward, who had over the misgivings of many bought all that ice from Russia.

    One does get the impression that the senator from Arizona is living in a sort of echo chamber of nonsensical phrases, notions and unreality.

    To further add insult to injury, as it were, he describes himself as a “maverick,” which one critic in the audience assures him he is not, anyway, like the great Maury Maverick, a New Deal congressman from Texas who was so dedicated to freedom that he allowed his cattle to roam unbranded, freely on the range—a tribute to a time when Texans were freer than now in the post-Bush era.

    The critic in the audience said that he was no maverick in the usual sense on the ground that he was simply a sidekick. That just about sums it up: Sidekick to the only president we have ever had who lacked any interest in governance.

    As we are going through a religious phase in this greatest of all great nations, I am reminded of Chancellor Bismarck’s remark about us Americans in the 19th century when he said: “God looks after drunks, little children and the United States of America.”

    Amen.

    • wow... he says of Mccain, "Consistency is all-important to the born loser as well as to the committed liar."robotron3k
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    Repeat after me. Mr. President Barack Hussein Obama.

  • Ramanisky20

    this made chuckle

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  • SigDesign0

    OK you guys... I'm gettin pretty annoyed with NEWS motion graphics... I mean, I've disliked them for a long time, but lately since I've been watching more cable news for politics I just sit there wondering what the fuck is all this crap?? Every word has a reflection and they're on top of other photos... I can't find video of this, but... also the constantly moving titles and such are so ridiculous....... I see nothing really stylish on news shows. I mean, maybe because they don't get much time to produce them, but what about creating templates?

    • show them the wayMeeklo
    • there's a design thread somewhere around here for that...this is POLITICS!KwesiJ
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    ^

    one of my main clients is a TV station.
    this is impossible. trust me. i tried to push for standardization but and templates, but then that falls into the bureaucratic side of the companies and everybody has to approve. it sits on desks for weeks or more. by the time everybody signed off, someone changes their mind and nothing works. they want something new and "edgy-er". i've seen some nice work by some tv stations, but even then. it changes in less than 2 months.

    • that is even if i propose something that is flexible and easy to adapt every month or so. they cant and wont devote the time and money for itFanco
    • ... devote the time and money for it.Fanco