Logo Crit
- Started
- Last post
- 23 Responses
- bulletfactory0
^ you have a great point about weighing the two things... showing justice the way they want has proved difficult i had been using a gavel, but they insisted that they wanted to show justice, not judging - I do notice now the message i currently have, may convey weighing the juvenile's dreams vs. family (though the point of the hands in the background was to show community balancing the two) - i'm going to think on this carefully
- neverblink0
I think you might need to think about what you are saying here.
The scales weigh two things against eachother. In your case you have a kid reaching for a star (chasing dreams) weighing against a kid with two adults (happy family). To me that seem to be two positives, when you might want a positive and a negative weighing against eachother.
How about making the kid in the family reaching for a star where on the other scale you can show "justice"? Then your telling a different story about making a choice between a 'good' and 'bad'.I think the style is spot on, although I would make the arms of the scale (more) symetrical. The colours of the first one were more positive than in this second design. Maybe the green from the first with the red from the second?
- cannonball0
Just kidding! Maybe logos that a re verbose like that work well when the words are wrapped around a seal? (not the aquatic kind)
- yes - my seals in the other concepts we too official and corporate for them, maybe encircling it w/ text will do itbulletfactory
- cannonball0
Totally blows. Go shoot yourself.
- luckily a bulletfactory would have ample ammunition for such a task7point34
- ha!bulletfactory
- bulletfactory0
I updated the logo based on your suggestions (thank you for those) and played with colors - i started w/ primary and started shifting from there - the yellow was too bright, so i darkened it, and then shifted the others some. The client has been more responsive of this direction... If you guys have time, I'd love to get some critiques on v2... thanks!
- definitely better without the childish handwritten font7point34
- Knuckleberry0
If I may say... since I have already. If a kid goes into a juvenile detention center. I feel that he may come out a hardened criminal in less than two weeks if he has to look at the shitty type on the bottom of the logo. Also, if my color theory is off I am sorry, the color green and orange typically look shitty together.
- yeah - i disliked the handwritten type on bottom - all type is going to be the same face.bulletfactory
- Grood, great and good.Knuckleberry
- cashface0
looks pretty damn good considering the content. I'm not sold on the hands, I just clean up the fingers and/or just make a more basic shape.
- d_rek0
Also, if it's truly kids they're trying to reach with this you may want to play with the color more - kids always seem to respond to color before anything else.
- d_rek0
Give them what they want (the crap you have above, sorry it is crap though) and then try to sell them on what they *need* - which is a simplified logo. Maybe one of those ideas(ie: the kid reaching for the star, the family, the scales) takes precedence over others?
Criticisms:
1) Scale: This thing will have to be an absolute monster to work at all - I can already tell that if it's gonna drop below a certain size the illustration & your tight kerning is all going to be lost. Simplifying the forms will help this.2) Consider the typography... the only reason this feels slightly 'official' or 'judicious' to me is because of the all-caps display serif(it looks like jenson or garamond to me). The script type below the name of the court doesn't gel with me at all, it works with the illustration but not the name of the court.. i think this is an issue of typographic proportion (the serif has classical proportions and the script has... well... not much going for it). I would try some sans serifs(even if you're client doesn't like them you can at least try to have fun with this piece) and maybe try alternating the colors/weights for emphasis.
3) Not reading the hands that well in under the scales... or that they're even scales.
and here's my subjective response:
And for some reason I highly doubt that the idea of ANY juvenile court ANYWHERE appeals to kids... If you can find one kid(who doesn't have a record) who gives a shit about the juvenile court I would be absolutely amazed. Consider the REAL demographic of this mark even if your client isn't.- great points - thanks!! two versions is the way to go - a version of what they want, and a version of what they need.bulletfactory
- Knuckleberry0
Today should be honesty day, I believe I have started it.
- akrokdesign0
too much going on...you need to simplify. well, if you want a working one. :-)
- b_electro0
2 elements I like a lot: the hands w/ figures in them, and the serif'd type lock-up. That said, yes, take a second pass on the letter-spacing. I don't like the rendering of the scales, and I really don't like the "juvenile division" type- it's almost unintentionally humorous, it's almost like why not just go ahead and horizontally reflect the "n," ugh. Colors are very Kwaanza, dunno man.
Hit this thing with the simplify tool, hard. It's gonna be good but you gotta work it.
- Knuckleberry0
that sucks (im drunk, btw)
- Llyod0
- +1 - i'm going to print this one out and present to the client - more accurate of their lives sometimes.bulletfactory
- lolutopian2
- doesnotexist0
it should still hold some authority, I would say this doesn't have any authority in its imagery with the bright colors and child like rendering.
- not that child like is bad, I just think it's not appropriatedoesnotexist
- i agree on the note about the colors - i like them, but i think zoo more than courtslorac77
- lorac770
From far away I see either easter eggs or eyeballs hanging....I agree there's way too much going on for a logo and think the colors are too contrasting (especially the orange and the dark blue which are complementary.)
i also think the text is competing with the graphic symbol should be smaller to maintain some sort of hierarchy. usually the symbol should be the larger element and the name remains smaller, with some exceptions.
- in the version before this the scale pans and chains looked like a bikini top ha!bulletfactory
- dog_opus0
The colors are great (almost a split complementary). I"m assuming that you're going to take care of the kerning (U<D in "JUDICIAL," e.g.). The concept is excellent in my view, with the following exceptions: it took me a little while (a bit too long in other words) to realize that those are hands on the scale. I also can't figure out what the child on the left is reaching for. Is that important? Finally, the text is really incongruous. I don't know if you'd want it all serifed, or that display handwritten font – it's just off.
You're off to a great start, though. It should look fine in B&W too, as far as I can tell.
- the child reaching for a star (not exactly sure why, but they required that element)bulletfactory
- adamm0
Maybe "judicial circuit of" needs to be on one line.