Drilling in Anwar
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- mrdobolina0
how about fucking using less?
- akrokdesign0
dear america, you will never be independent of oil. you drink too much. unless you can cut the use of oil. then its an other deal.
- mrdobolina0
I mean I realize that trucks have to deliver food and products and things but how about joe public drives his car less. If you have to travel 50 miles to work each way, you made a shitty unsustainable decision.
- public transport should be brought up to scratch as well, more people flying about on trainschossy
- chossy0
Somebody should hurry the fuck up and make something small and nuclear and safe to power cities and trains and things. A nuclear train smooth!!.
- PonyBoy0
The American Auto industry is feeling it... vehicle purchases haven't been this low in 15 years.
http://www.latimes.com/news/prin…
Now - I agree to a point that this is GOOD... ease up America!!! You don't need to buy buy buy consume consume consume like the commercials tell you (or your jealousy of your neighbor tells you)...
... on the other side of that - if cars aren't selling... people aren't working.
It's a dirty circle.
- i think the people who worked on cars in detroit. have all ready lost the jobs.akrokdesign
- +1 on the "dirty circle"TheBlueOne
- chossy0
Also cars are on the whole are better made these days. My current car is 13 years old.
- TheBlueOne0
*awaits hedge's arrival. Anticipates his responses:
"Well the markets will respond favorably."
"What is the relative market value of a herd of caribou? No way to monetize the beasts really."
"Better for me, therefore better for everyone."
"I'm highly leveraged in energy stocks at the moment."
**His response to this "I am not highly leveraged in energy stocks. Bad investment choice at this time."
- Fuck..he's got me doing it now....TheBlueOne
- you left out-
"poorly photoshopped"PonyBoy - hahaha!!!TheBlueOne
- mg330
In that first picture, those lines are like animal hallways.
- somatica0
High oil and gas prices are crushing car sales right now. Auto industries are getting a brutal wake-up call that their shitty cars and trucks that don't get more than 20mpg highway aren't ever going to sell. I see this all as a blessing in disguise because I've never in my life seen more Hybrids, mopeds or motorcycles on the road. I was just pricing a Hybrid Camry on Carmax and a day later it was gone. Honda, Ford and Toyota all tell me there is a 4 month waiting list for a Hybrid anything. Yeah trucks and trains use oil but there are trains by GE now that get 300mpg and semis getting more and more efficient with their cleaner burning engines.
Not everyone has the luxury of living withing walking distance to work or public transportation as not everyone loves the hustle and bustle of city life. It's starting to trickle down all the way to big oil that eventually, big business will start to say f-u.
- if a person doesn't like city life or works far away from home, then they need to deal with the prices.mrdobolina
- that's a pretty simplistic view. there are other factors that govern where people live and why they do. school systems? spouse's work?johndiggity
- it is a choice, john.mrdobolina
- I really question that a train gets 300mpg... maybe as a quota per person transported. no way that's total.monNom
- TheBlueOne0
According to the "Energy Information Administration / Annual Energy - Review 2004" Transportation made up 28% of US Petroleum use, Industry & Residential heating used up 54%. the remaining went to commercial and agricultural use.
So yeah, hybrid cars are a good choice, but so is taking our energy grid off of oil and institutuing policies that make oil use more efficient in industrial and home heating. Even if we went to geo-thermal and solar in home heating alone you'd make a dent...and that's be easier to do than getting the whole transportation grid remodeled...
- You can find a whole bunch of reports here:
http://www.eia.doe.g…TheBlueOne - wow, interesting. I would have never known. You'd swear by the media automobiles use up 99%. Thanks!designbot
- You can find a whole bunch of reports here:
- ukit0
If you really wanted cheap oil for Americans, the solution would be to nationalize the oil industry. I'm not saying that's feasible or a good idea, but that's how countries like Iran are able to make oil so cheap for their citizens.
- America's bureaucrats in charge of energy?... yikes. :) Look how well these guys have handled Social Security...PonyBoy
- never gonna happenTheBlueOne
- ... or how well Vet hospitals are run etc...
Keep it private - but watch it like a hawk. (my silly opinion)PonyBoy - I agree - but point is, that's the only way you make oil cheaper for us specifically, rather than just increasing world supplyukit
- chossy0
can you not make oil or something from algae and use rape seed to fuel stuff?......
- if it's not economically Hedge-like... then no... none of that is possible.
:)PonyBoy - Soon. But not enough, not yet. Good article on this..
http://www.theregist…detritus
- if it's not economically Hedge-like... then no... none of that is possible.
- Soler0
Oil consumption PER CAPITA (Notice India and China and well into the 100's). Shows which countries need to make lifestyle changes. Damn Arubans!!!
- fooler20
Isn't one of the major reasons we bought Alaska was for it's resources? If we do correctly with and with as little environmental impact as possible I don't see a problem with it.
- I'm sure that'll it'll be done correctlyflashbender
- bwaaaahahahahahahaha...
ha ahhhhhhhh.
I almost did it with a straight faceflashbender - Exxon ValdezSoler
- section_0140
fucking drill already. I can't believe we haven't already. Ridiculous.
- hedge0
Blue, what exactly are the disadvantages of drilling in ANWR? I realize you said that we need to ween ourselves off of fossil fuels, pursue alternative energy, and save poor Mother Nature, but what are the downsides to actually drilling there? I can list numerous advantages.
- dog_opus0
We should drill there, while at the same time initiating a Manhattan Project for viable, low environmental impact alternative energy. Like the endless supply from the sun, as one obvious example.
- Soler0
Hedge, It hinders survival of wildlife in the area. Enough said. I don't know if you've noticed but extinction rates are high and animal refuges are dwindling. It's not worth the risk for a piddly amount of oil we should be weening ourselves off anyway.
- hedge0
And of what value to us are said animals? If you could monetize the value of the wildlife in this single area, do you really think it would be more than what Americans spend on energy each day?