why I hate.....
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- edd-e0
ken-
"client: We use whatever it takes to get the job done."
ken if this is what the client has already staated to you, this means go purchase fireworks, or bring in your own copy, or bill them for it, or dont taake the job.
you mention my line of work in your rant and you are wrong again. i can make a bag with a pen, a pencil, a computer, telepathy, use collage...ken this is meant by "what ever it takes" its not that different, you are being hired for your individual problem solving skills and your ideas for the creative flow you wish to show them, but if the knowledge of not know the functionalites of one program to the next, the first thing you need to do is start to learn that progrm that tool that pencil with magic lead over posting why i hate the things in the world that i dont know how to solve makes my mind numb crap, all this time is wasted and wow photoshop isnt all that hard to learn considering you do use fireworks, your attitude to go forth and complain about a 2 hour commute is falling down to no one, lots of people travel great distances to do them same thing...stop crying about it, becaue the reality is you havent taken that job and you diddnt start teh 2 hour commute which btw is 4 hours you lose of f your day where you could be mastering oh what the fundamentals of photoshop???
oh this is why you hate corporate???
fucking petty!!!
- liquid0
ed.. you make me laugh.... in a good way.....
my point is ...... why should I have to learn on something that actually makes no sense... just because it is the "standard" doesn't mean its better.....
and I am bringing my own laptop and monitor if necessary...hooking up some ram and I should be aight...
- edd-e0
nice...
oh btw, i never touch photoshop...or more like i touched it once and it was last year.
i also design everything with my laptop and the trackpad with just my lonely finger...no mouse and no pen...
:)
- doesnotexist0
it's not about learning photoshop really, in your case it is, it's more about being to create regardless of the medium.
- liquid0
yeah thats what eddie meant....
i have to bite the bullet .... its just that I am really fast within my own workflow and I am afraid that if I go there....they will expect the same speed.....
I doubt if I learned it I could do it that fast...because all the rules I ahve in my head...allow me to move quickly without thinking....they are hardwired...I then focus on what matters....UI, UEX etc....
If I were working in Visio and someone told me we dont have visio...I would say no problem because Illustrator or Indesign can do the same thing mostly...
but there are distinct differences with fireworks and ps....
- liquid0
for those that asked the difference about FW and PS....I will tell you the FW way...someone please tell me all the steps for PS
round edged boxes...I know it sounds silly but someone please describe the steps for making a 200x200 square box..... round the edges... put a 1 pixel border with different fill..... then tell me how to take the same box.... and change the size without dithering the edges and make it 275x 231......
- edd-e0
the only fireworks i like is the ones that ex-mayor guilanni made illegal.
- edd-e0
couldnt you make the larger size first and make a regular box and then use the marquee tool and rounds the selection wwith your arrow keys and then erase the corners or make it a clipping path and then just re-zize to the smaller...should take less than 40 seconds total.
- frankiefido0
all the people who i have known to use fireworks over photoshop are queers.
- monNom0
Rounded box in photoshop:
draw rounded rectangle vector shape, set layer effect to have a stroke,
alt drag your box for a new one,
proceed to scale your face off... no pixelation.
- Mimio0
The last two versions of PS incorporate smart objects.
- material-10
honestly ken, it will be 20 minutes before you're up and running.
- onewhoslaps0
you could use photoshop to bring up the quality about 5% on those three images on MR. WEb Guy dood thing.
web logo and stationary design....
*slap
- onewhoslaps0
and fireworks is the bomb.
- edd-e0
nooner?? dat you??
- lvl_130
i used fireworks...6 years ago. haven't looked back since.
but i find it funny that this thread deviated from your original "corporate sucks" point. well, no, actually i don't because it's fucking newstoday! and if we ain't smartasses then we ain't nothin'!
so shove it!.......................and corporate sucks. :) i mean how many fucking people do you have to go through just to get something done?