Kenya Fossils
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- lemmys_wart0
hey god boy,
i bet you still can't provide a single shread of positive evidence supporting id.
tens of thousands of peer reviewed studies supporting biological theory (evolution).
humans now using this dna theory to enigeer man (viruses that deliver anti-cancer drugs for starters)
you?
stiil. got. nothing.
unless you count an invisible sky man as something...
- flagellum0
lemmys wart: I'm not going to waste my time with you. You can't even get your accusations straight. I'm not interested in knocking down your strawmen. :)
- lemmys_wart0
that's cause you got nothing!
- TheBlueOne0
stiil. got. nothing.
lemmys_wart
(Dec 5 06, 10:55)
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Hey now..that's harsh..he's got Plastic Jesus riding shotgun on his dashboard...
- lemmys_wart0
buncha this little thing, that little thing...
ignore the mountains of evidence for biology all the while!
we (science) dont have absolute knowledge.
you can prove that.
but the fact is ALL the scientfic evidence points to dna based adaption.
thats it.
the end.
- lemmys_wart0
Hey now..that's harsh..he's got Plastic Jesus riding shotgun on his dashboard...
TheBlueOne
(Dec 5 06, 10:59)i like me some jesus.
greatest folk hero of all time.
- material-10
amen
- TheBlueOne0
Jesus crossed the Rio Grande I heard.
- flagellum0
lol @ lemmys_wart. Again, isn't it a mole on lemmy's face?
Ok, I'll take your bait for a minute. I'm a glutton for punishment. But please don't make me define terms for you to understand. Just look them up.
Some of scientific evidence for ID is:
- Fine tuning of the cosmologic constants. i.e. the laws of physics are "rigged" to support life. Within an impossibly small tolerance.
- The Cambrian Explosion: The majority of biological novelty in the form of unique tissue, cells and body plans, appear abruptly in the geologic column without precursors and without any evidence of gradualism from simpler lifeforms.
- Cellular Machinery: The rotors, turbines, transport shuttles, pulleys, stators, etc... in the cell which make it more complex than the infrastructure of NYC. This machinery is Irreducibly Complex meaning that there would be nothing for Darwinian Natural Selection to select upon. This machinery requires all of it's parts simultaneously to function. Remove one component and the machine fails.
- Digital code at the core of life: The 4 nucleotide alphabet encoded along the spine of the DNA molecule. This is also known as Specified Information. DNA is a ribosome coding computer. Blind, a-telic mechanisms don't write programs.
- The complete lack of intermediates in the fossil record. Only a handful of Chimeras. Most phyla give no evidence of evolution via gradualism. Rather a saltational evolution is what the record would demonstrate. i.e. the sudden appearance of novel phyla (from reading a genetic program). Think of a computer algorith which executes different functions at given intervals.
meh... that's probably enough for your brain for now.
It's a mole I say!!!!
- flagellum0
algorith = algorithm
- parseInteger0
He's got you going in Circles,
Bah, bah, ba, baaaaa....
Ooooh round and round you go.
(Sing with that seventies song inflection)I mean talk about pseudo -intelletual christian babble. This freak keeps you going in circles! LOL. It's fucking hilarious the more I think about it. All these little loophole arguments and statements and tangents. What the...? It's like donkeys after a dangling carrot.
- flagellum0
And if anyone can tell me how those tenets of ID I just listed have anything to do with religion... I'll send you a Twinkie wrapper.
- flagellum0
Thank you, parseInteger. You're a shining example of why ID is growing. Put simply, because you and it's other opponents would rather commit ad hominems and namecalling instead of dealing with the arguments on their own merits.
Keep up the good work!
- TheBlueOne0
And if anyone can tell me how those tenets of ID I just listed have anything to do with religion... I'll send you a Twinkie wrapper.
flagellum
(Dec 5 06, 11:27)
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Beats me, but it's all bad, crappy discredited pseud-scientific mumbo jumbo...if those are you're tenets, well...wow..lpease tell me how a) you will test each of those "tenets" and b) how will they be "falsifiable"
- flagellum0
theBlueOne: You're probably just being silly (i hope!). But... I'm afraid you're talking out of your bottom. What I listed constitutes empirically observable evidence. Are you trying to tell me that the four nucleotide alphabet in DNA does not code ribosomes??? lol. You can pick up an introductory Biology book and learn about this.
On the topic, why don't you tell me how speciation via the neoDarwinian synthesis is empircally observable and falsifiable? I won't hold my breath.
- TheBlueOne0
There are more things in heaven and earth, Flagellum,
Than are dreamt of in your philosophy.
- mrdobolina0
flagellum: I will shut him up with scientific mumbo jumbo that he doesnt understand.
- flagellum0
You may also want to revisit the definition of the Straw Man fallacy. It essentially means to take an argument, misrepresent it/change it, and then attack the misrepresented version without dealing with the actual argument.