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- Jaline0
I didn't say it was bad, Pony, just that people don't grasp the true meaning of the bracelet or t-shirt or whatever and just buy it because everyone else is buying it. If you think ignorance is bliss then I guess you'd be fine with this. anyway, there are always other things working around these campaigns, like what flavor said. That doesn't mean I don't support them all the time. Just look at the 'Make Poverty History' banner I have up at my site.
- ********0
Also, charities are notorious for having big parties.
Now, most of them are sponsored and are to show the people who do work in them that it is appreciated, but I always kind of felt weird at them - like ... don't go all out, have a nice thing and give even more to the cause you are celebrating your work in.
You'd think more people would be onboard with that, but it's like they do it, just to do it and a party justifies to them that they are making a difference.
I got an engraved invitation to be one of a slew of people recognised in Pittbsurgh for their various works in the community for some event last year and I swear it said, "top hat optional."
...
I didn't even bother to go.
... That being said I had more important things to do that weekend, and did end up getting a speeding ticket, and my car towed.
So perhaps I should have, haha.
- ********0
and to be completely honest about this:
i find it un-ethical to use poverty as a part of your marketing resources. i do. it's awful. it's sick.
a wonderful thing would be for those big companies and Bands to give whatever they want ANONIMOUSLY to a global fund.
Would they go for it then? Would it please their ego that way?
It would please mine, and that's my only problem about fashion statements (as kOna wisely put it) and sympathetic pop stars. You never know.
- k0na_an0k0
relax pony.
wouldn't you know it but i had 2 livestrong bands and i got made fun of for wearing them. (by nters here).
i'm pissed at apple for only donating $10 for a $200 nano when gap is donating half of $28 for a shirt. actually half for the whole red line but whatever.
the last time i was one of the first people that i knew of to start weraing the livestrong bands, and poeple asked me what they were for, then, after a bit of time everyone wore them for all the wrong reasons and i wasl ike bleh and hung them on my wall.
seeing as how i've lost an aunt, grandmother, grandfather and nearly a cousin to cancer it made me mad people were buying them as fashion statements.
but whatever. i'm rambling cause i'm bored and this day is going by so slow.
i'll probably buy the tshirt this weekend and by next weekend see about 40 people wearing them in the gym. oh well.
- PonyBoy0
Jaline... being 'ignorant' and jumping on board with the masses in this 'red' campaign' or the Livestrong campaign are perfectly acceptable forms of 'ignorance' imho...
... this is one of those moments where being 'ignorant' at first doesn't really matter... therefore I'm all for the proliferation of such things - because people will 'get it' eventually...
... I challenge you to find someone who doesn't understand the meaning behind the Livestrong arm band.
7 tour de france wins and a bout w/testicular cancer makes for a great story... thus the 'proliferation' of a silly little arm-band which in fact means so much more...
... I hope the same thing happens with the 'red' campaign. I could CARE LESS if people jump on board to be like Bono or to be like their neighbor who too is sporting the ipod, phone or shirt etc...
... because in the end - it goes to something good.
I'm glad you're all 'socially aware' of yourselves and everyone around you... but why be worried about what everyone thinks of what 'you're wearing' when 'personally' you know what you purchased has proceeds that aren't completely selfish... or better yet...
//DON'T WEAR THE SHIRT IN PUBLIC until you feel you're grown-up enough to handle such a social responsibility.
- ********0
Heh, I still have my first ONE bracelet from the original batch (they gave me like 100 of which I have about 5 left).
I also have a breast cancer one I wear.
But to be honest, I wear the breast cancer one mostly because it's pink.
I've worn both of these seemingly forever.
Plus the one bracelet is great for jokes like when someone asks what time it is I look ot my rite wrist and go, "one o clock."
You'd think that would get old, but not to me.
- ********0
kOna, the Red Campaign is a subsidary of the One Campaign.
- Gucci0
bono is the new john lennon.
which is kinda great....
but i'm not sure i can feel warm and fuzzy about a guy who's got more money than a small country.Forive my ignorance, but how does AIDS start in Africa, anyway?
I mean... Is there a lot of unprotected sex? Do they share needles? Is there a link to an article somewhere that I could read?
Is money going to solve anything?
I don't want to sound insensitive, but there are so many causes that are worthwhile. Why does Bono's plight get so much attention?
- k0na_an0k0
kOna, the Red Campaign is a subsidary of the One Campaign.
flavorful
(Oct 13 06, 12:22)a few seconds after i wrote that i read that on the site
ha
- ********0
... Now this is just one aspect, however, there are certain organizations that preach that condoms are not G-d's will.
And in a country where seemingly in most parts, more people have AIDS than don't ... that seems kind of like ethnic cleansing.
- ********0
a few seconds after i wrote that i read that on the site
ha
k0na_an0k
(Oct 13 06, 12:24)pluas ee pawsted thate befawre, kan'te yawu reed?!
- PonyBoy0
Bono's plite gets plenty of attention because he IS Bono... just like Lance Armstrong IS Lance Armstrong...
... it's the same reason we have celebrity spokes people for Advertising campaigns etc... you put a 'trusting well-known' face to a product... and it sells...
... this isn't much diff. in the realm charity work...
... recall after 9/11 and the Katrina disasters? HUGE TELEVISED Famous People telethons ran up a ton of support etc...
... would there have been any viewship to those money-raising campaigns if not for the famous folks performing? Sure - maybe... a lil money would have been raised...
... What's unfortunetly happening here is people are judging the campaign on the people running it - and not the outcome nor the desired outcome.
- ********0
Haha, I think you're just pissed because you think we are calling you a lemming.
(I'm not at least. :D )
- nosaj0
Why knock anyone trying to do the right thing in such a messed up world? Sure companies get on board for publicity as much as the desire to do the right thing. Sure $10 from the sale of an IPOD doesn't seem like much. Sure Bono hasn't given all his millions away to save the sick. But it sure seems a thousand times better then the rest of the news I read... and a million times better then the excessive lifestyles glamorized in entertainment today.
- e_b_c0
it seems to me that the red campaign would be better served it you just made a donation directly to them. and then you wont feel obligated to wear the stupid shirt.
- e_b_c0
but i really like that red motorcycle jacket. dang.
- ********0
... WOW!! impressive and a solid role model for other companies... 50%!!!!!
... I think I'll go buy me a 'red' t-shirt from the Gap. :) This is a great idea and I'll be proud to buy!!
PonyBoy
(Oct 13 06, 11:34)go for 100%. donate the money straight to a proper cause instead of falling for marketing tricks.
they are not doing this to be just good people. it is a company and has to make profits in the end or else it will go bankrupt.
- Jaline0
".. I challenge you to find someone who doesn't understand the meaning behind the Livestrong arm band.
7 tour de france wins and a bout w/testicular cancer makes for a great story... thus the 'proliferation' of a silly little arm-band which in fact means so much more..."
Pony, some people don't even know that Lance Armstrong started the whole campaign, which is kind of annoying. That people don't even know what the bracelet really means...it's easy to find people like this. I personally know one or two.
Anyway, doesn't mean you don't have to support it...just that the meaning won't generally last long.
- mistermisurelli0
Forget about the products. Donate directly.