Root of all Evil
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- ********0
basically fundamentally pious people are like broken records.
- chossy0
jesus came to wash away the sins of the time did he not? or some shite like that, well I think god was a bit early when sacrificing his only son, as these days more sin is going on, I'm telling you man, I got the v's flicked at me this morning for example.
- chossy0
Do animals go to heaven?
- KuzIII0
Again. Dickpler, you demonstrate your gross ignorance. Obviously you have trouble distinguishing between ideology and religion. I just explained to you that no Marxist ever fought for atheism, or even materialism – they fought for class and the redistribution of wealth (in whatever perverse ideology). They may have been atheists as a corollary to this, but this did not stop armies of Marxists fighting for social welfare– offering free healthcare to all, and striving to fight for a standard of living for the masses. Obviously, egotistical leaders driven by subservience to a higher ideology ended up fermenting some terrible terrible tragedies.
As for the Nazis, I can see how you allude to Nietzche and how the Nazi’s misunderstood his philosophy of the “over-man” etc, but then to claim that the Nazi atrocities were directly as a result of atheism or materialism – is again entirely false. You should try thinking for yourself. The ideology that inspired the Nazi’s was the most extreme form of Nationalism. Their racial theories and philosophical theories were wholly subservient to this Nationalism which is otherwise known as fascism. Both fascism and nationalism has absolutely nothing to do with atheism. If you are an atheists, from a philosophical standpoint, it does not mean you are automatically inspired to fight and die for your nation or your people. Quite the contrary – ditto for materialist.
What you need, flagellateme, is a more nuanced understanding of history and historical forces, that inspire human conflict – rather than the great sledgehammer of religion that you seem to be treating history with.
- ********0
Do animals go to heaven?
chossy
(Jan 10 06, 06:54)ha, I know there are some in hell.
*scratches numerous scars from the junyard dogs that bit me as a kiddie
- ********0
so, flangellum, you're a christian, so how much money do you spend at the church each month, or giving to "god"?
I really don't get how people can't see that religion is the world first and last corporation/con-man
- KuzIII0
For those who are honest and interested, simply research Stalin, Lenin, Mao, their underpinning world-views and then note the blood on their hands.
flagellum
(Jan 10 06, 06:43yes, i have. I spent 4 years at university studying this (3 years undergraduate, 1 years masters).
- ********0
so, flangellum, you're a christian, so how much money do you spend at the church each month, or giving to "god"?
pixelbreaker
(Jan 10 06, 06:56)Tithing is 10%. Read up my friend.
- Baskerville0
I've not read the posts above but please don't let this become the new ID thread. They're starting to piss me off something rotten.
Instead talk about design or something:
come on! the Designer of the Year nominees are out today:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_ne…
both the Guardian and Jamie Hewlett are the but sadly god is not in the running this year.
now start talking design.
- ********0
Hey, FlagellateMe
How was any 20th century Marxist state different, structurally, than any large religious organization of similar size throughout history? And how were the goals different?
- flagellum0
Kuzz, please learn:
"Brzezinski estimated that approximately 87 million people had perished in wars during the 20th century. An almost equal number, more than 80 million, had been murdered in cold blood as a result of ideologically motivated terror and totalitarian genocide. Thus upwards of 167 million, or almost 170 million people, represent the lower limit on this century’s dreadful ledger. "This," concludes Brzezinski, "is more than the total killed in all previous wars, civil conflicts, and religious persecutions throughout human history." The mind cannot deal adequately with carnage of such monstrous proportions, and is numbed into incomprehension by the very magnitudes involved. This incomprehension serves as a refuge for the human mind, which instinctively recoils from coming to terms with evil of such dimensions.
The 70 million dead in two world wars; the 50 million dead or missing in combat during the so-called "peace" period since the last world war; the 6 million Jews butchered in extermination camps; the untold millions handed over to famine; the tens of millions that perished in the Soviet Gulag (the devastation is of such magnitude that accurate figures cannot be cited, estimates ranging between 15 and 66 million); the comparable number that went to their deaths in China; the progressive institutionalization of torture by almost all the nations of the world; the ever-increasing degree of violence in the methods of torture; the lack of compassion for women, children and the aged—quite to the contrary, the compulsion to inflict even more merciless torture on precisely those who are most at our mercy—the terrors of the 20th century are far beyond the comprehension of any horror movie. What has happened in fact leaves fiction speechless, no matter how depraved or imaginative. George Steiner hit the nail on the head:
The concentration and death camps of the twentieth century, wherever they exist, under whatever régime, are Hell made immanent. They are the transference of Hell from below the earth to its surface... The absence of the familiar damned opened a vortex which the modern totalitarian state has filled."
http://stjohns-chs.org/english/g…
Again, under the banner of a totalitarianism rooted in Humanist philosophy.
- ********0
Tithing is 10%. Read up my friend.
JazX
(Jan 10 06, 06:59)
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10%, you don't say? So I guess we've comncluded that only 10% of that camel makes it through the eye of the needle, eh?
- flagellum0
The end result would be different, Tick. One is rooted in a philosophy which says that we are purposeless accidents and that certain races are inferior, the other would not.
- Chimp0
if god made the earth, who made god?
- deadpixels0
Gods names is taken on Newstoday, has anyone ever seen him floating around PVN?
- chossy0
The question is why the fuck would a god if one existed make an earth.
- ********0
Gods names is taken on Newstoday, has anyone ever seen him floating around PVN?
deadpixels
(Jan 10 06, 07:05)
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Which one? I see Yahweh every thursday night...a weekly pub crawl kinda thing...Zeus, he's crazy man..always looking to nail some young babe in freaky costumes.Shiva, well, he's got that motorcycle he hangs with, so unless your real butch it's tough to hang with his crowd...and just yesterday, Allah was posting about how he still likes using tables for layouts...
- ********0
if god made the earth, who made god?
Chimp
(Jan 10 06, 07:03)We did (and will, or already have).
It's just a computer simualtion. When we have evolved enough, we'll make our own simulation within ours, thus we become God. This goes on and on. God is two mirrors facing one another.
- ********0
It's one giant holograph.
