DW8 vs BBEdit
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- kerus0
multi-file search & replace is the bomb
- AlsoKnownAs0
eh?
what is "markup dropdown"?
sounds very fonkay?
- AlsoKnownAs0
yep, the day i discovered mutli-file "seach and replace", i may have wept with joy.
- KILLputer0
The only thing I can see useful out of DW is that you can run the sites offline and make LIVE edits. For ezample, you can edit something that is running a server side app on your home machine and see the results without having to FTP the files each time.
Nice idea for working developing large sites on a local test machine.
Plus if you were a complete macromedia user you can fluently exchange image placement via Fireworks, and add Flash content, well... in a flash.
- AlsoKnownAs0
thanks, have that grep tut bookmarked for a rainy day.
- KILLputer0
another link to bookmark:
- fusionpixel0
Just in DW defense, I have used it for the past 4 years and never had a problem. Sometimes you have extra code but that can be avoided if you know where to fix the problem.
I have created large sites with DW and with extremly clean code. another reason why I use it so much is because everywhere I have worked I am requested to use DW. specially to create templates, that btw once you learn how to make templates you can make really complexe layouts and make site wide changes with the press of a button.
- KILLputer0
True, as far as site wide changes are concerned. But if you use proper CSS to build a site you can do the same just as fast.
I just got finsihed updating a site for a completely new look.
Did so by changing 10 divs tags and adding one more.
- AlsoKnownAs0
Thanks fusion...
That is worth considering - templates, that is - i hadn't thought of that.
Also, I here you on the job front - it is by far the industry standard tool.
- fusionpixel0
btw is bbedit for PC too? I couldnt find any info on that.
- kerus0
part of my DW bitterness is having to continually clean-up (REDO) code made by someone who also does not know DW very well.. nightmarish.....
- gabriel20
I used to hate on dreamweaver too but once I started exploring what it can do I never looked back. Drag and drop objects, fully customizable menus, copy and paste complex data tables from word or excel right into the page. Plus if you don't like some of the code it writes, it has the option of going in and customizing it to whatever you want it to be.
Also, the site check-in, check-out is great for multi-developer environments as well as being able to export all your sites ftp info to tiny files you can carry around on a usb stick.
I'd recommend giving it a shot in coder view since that'll be the most like what you're used to with BBEdit.
- kerus0
my ADD cant tolerate having all those unnecessary options to play with. ill be on a new tangient before the original interrupting tangient even finishes interrupting me
- fusionpixel0
my ADD cant tolerate having all those unnecessary options to play with. ill be on a new tangient before the original interrupting tangient even finishes interrupting me
kerus
(Nov 9 05, 21:19)
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You can hide "everything" and just leave the coding hints.
- BarryWhiteZombi0
Dreamweaver has added the ability to collapse segments of code, So now when I open up a file I see the header, columns and footer divs and just open the piece I'm working on. It's great for someone as OCD about clutter as I am.
I've never used bbedit so I dont know if they have ths option
- AlsoKnownAs0
Thanks, fair enough, those are all good pro-DW points.
BTW, fusion, BBEdit is avail for mac only. I'm sure that thre must be comparable Windows texteditors though.
- tomkat0
u can handcode with DW as well.. I just use the preview from time to time.
and the css auto completion is nice.. but otherwise its all handjob
- AlsoKnownAs0
Yes, I know Tomkat, but BBEdit is much nicer and more efficient environment for handcoding imho.
So it wouldn't make sense for me to use DW like that.
- fusionpixel0
In the end its whatever gets the job done.
If you can type faster than some one else will take them to drag and drop an image into their design. Then hand code.
And also whatever your boss requests. One time I created a template all nice and neat with XHTML and CSS just to find out that because of the render capabilities of DW the other designers couldnt work with the file. I could see how everything was layed out but when they opened the Design in Design Mode it look all messed up. So I ended up having to recreate it with tables and stuff.