intelligent design
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- ********0
...and i suppose you are sooo beyond human...
...i personally don't believe most humans...
veraicon
(Sep 30 05, 16:50)
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Here, let me respond in a language you can easily understand:ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
I personally don't believe most humans either. Most, like you, are happy to be proud of their level of ignorance and would rather believe in the limitations of humanity than in the possibilities. Thanks. That's exactly the thinking that gave us great things like slavery, oppression, tyranny, religious intolerance, fuedalism, etc for about a few millenia of our existence.
Feel free to hang out witrh your buddies and not talk about anything and keep sniffing that glue and fostering that "what does it matter anyway, man" uber cool attitude. It does wonders for you.
Good thing there's an ignore function so from now on I don't need to indulge your ignorant banter.
Bye-bye.
- -scarabin-0
the fact that this topic is even being debated is retarded.
outdated medieval superstitious bullshit vs. reality
you idiot christers should be slapped for (among other things) calling pseudoscientific "voodoo science" "intelligent design"
- breadlegz0
scarabin, have you even read through this thread?
- discipler0
kuz, you are a master at twisting what people say and arriving at an imaginary scenario where you think you've "pinned them against the wall". I think that any thinking person who's been observing this thread will be able to clearly see the flaws in your "steamroller" approach. Let me take you down a notch or two, once again...
I fully understand the mathematical model of Conway's wherein you can have imaginary simplicity move to imaginary complexity. It's a simple model indeed. And what i have demonstrated is that this model has no bearing on irreducibly complex biological life. And we know this as a fact. Because the only un-intelligent mechanism available as an option to produce molecular machines, is Darwin's natural selection working with random mutation. And this has been showed to fail the test because natural selection prevents the necessary components of the fundamental building blocks of life, to come together (from simplicity) and create complexity. Again, these machines require all their constituent parts at once, to function. Indicating an instant in time where a design was actively put into place.
So, I see your point about the mathematical model. My counter point was to demonstrate how it has no bearing on what science observes in the realm of biochemistry and bioengineering. i.e. the core of all life.
- mrdobolina0
all you really need to know is that discipler thinks dinosaurs walked the earth less than 10,000 years ago.
- ********0
I like "voodoo science" I will add that too my personal lexicon I have gleened from the PVN which has also included the terms "brain gum" and "a tweeked stinky".
It's terms like this that cut right through those marketing meetings.
"Tad, you haven't put enough brain gum into this! It's all voodoo science! You're really tweeking my stinky man...put you're thinking back into the box..."
- ********0
all you really need to know is that discipler thinks dinosaurs walked the earth less than 10,000 years ago.
mrdobolina
(Oct 1 05, 07:04)
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So hold up here a minute. Fred and Barney didn't really go out for the bronosaurus burgers after all? That's it dobs! You're messing with my worldview and it's getting me steamed!!** says snarkily
- discipler0
Furthermore, let's not get caught up in semantics, as I know you like to do. My point about things "unfolding like a program" does not in any way imply an unguided evolutionary process unfolding. It simply implies that the program by the designer could have programmed species to initiate at certain points, etc... Again, my position is that the designer took an active role in the creative process.
- mrdobolina0
mmm bronto burgers.
Im starving but I think I should probably eat some sort of breakfast food.
- ********0
How about two ostrrichosaurus eggs? Wilma used to make them fro Fred all the time and they looked yummy...
- mrdobolina0
those things were like as big as my head. bowling is the oldest sport known to man btw.
- discipler0
And you guys can fling all the rhetoric you want about "medieval" beliefs and "voodoo" science and such. People said the same thing about Darwinism when it first came on the scene and the majority of the scientific community had a fit when the Big Bang theory was proposed, because of it's philosophical implications (i.e. if the universe had a beginning, there must have been a cause). So, this kind of emotional backlash is to be expected.
Again, it's the typical tactic: avoid the science and make it about religion/politics/agendas.
- discipler0
and you're making me hungry.
- ********0
...and everyone used to have geological related last names too...
- mrdobolina0
its all about religion, maybe you should change your name if you would like it to be about something else.
- ********0
Oh, is discipler back?
- mrdobolina0
yup.
- discipler0
tick knows i'm here. ;)
- ********0
That's it. Disipler is some technological hermit genius. He has some kinda contraption hooked up in his abode and/or secret liar. Whenever any post on the PVN with relation to god or ID gets posted alarm bells go off, he dons his super Crusader outfit and slides down the Discipler Pole into the Discipler Cave of Religious Righteous Justice and logs in. That's the only thing that explains this...