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- paraselene0
ah, kelpie, that's what we adore so much about you members of the aristocracy. so careful with grammar...
;D
- vespa0
'ken oath mate of course you can!
*pours large g&ts all round
my apostrophe was carefully placed out of aussie respect for fragile ears
- kelpie0
chin chin ladies.
*BOSH
- kelpie0
aaaaaahhhhhhhhhh
anyway; religion? bloody rubbish what what...
- paraselene0
grab your drink and come hang out in the 30 thread, kelpie. this one's rubbish.
- Republican20
I would like to know why people in general are more likely to believe in an invisible being than they are life on other planets. It seems as though there would certainly be life on other planets outside of our solar system and that most likely are responsible for our creation than an invisible all loving man who lashes out and condemns us when we don't agree with him, don't follow his invisible set of rules he supposedly provided, cant decode his riddles in some book he didn't write or choose 1 of hundreds of alternate beliefs. It's our fault he can't communicate in a more direct way?
I'll stick with the more likely scenario that we were produced as clones in the same way we would do if we found a planet that would support life.
- protean0
Those who believe in something so strongly hold on to those beliefs for dear life. If one believes the word of God will save him/her, then it will happen. They will live everyday with that belief. Yes, life tests us everyday, but if you strongly believe, whatever that may be, then you will lead a happier life. If you ask me, the Word of God is like thinking positive. Do that everyday and you will live a longer and happier life.
- ********0
I pray, I admit it
- anon0
pray to the god of comic sans?
- ********0
comic sans is godless
- AtlasImage0
@Republican
I'm honestly surprised to see such an insightful viewpoint from someone with the screen name Republican, simply due to the nowmorethanever stereotype that all Republicans are crazy Evangelicals. No offense to you, Republican, but I just found it surprising and refreshing.
Nice viewpoint.
- driftlab0
I'm hesitant to post in this discussion, but I've read J.P. Moreland and he's brilliant. Here's an article on the topic of what you are saying, disciphler -
- anon0
"Since we are made in God’s image, there should be something about us that can’t be adequately explained without postulating God’s existence."
as said before jp morland IS biased since he IS a christian philosopher. ofcourse he will twist and turn a "soft" matter in a way it fits his beliefs. what do you expect?
- driftlab0
anon, isn't it safe to say that every philosopher is starting with a premise. A belief either for or against the supernatural? I don't follow your logic. Why don't you read the article? Either he's presenting information that can be researched, or he isn't. Are you saying I should disregard everything that comes from a philosopher who is not a Christian, too?
- driftlab0
I don't think Moreland is an island either. My understanding is that the mind and consciousness thing being seperate from the soul, is a pretty standard and accepted belief. I think Moreland is just on the forefront being an author and debator an all that.
- driftlab0
bah! i mean mind and consciousness being seperate from the brain.
I should stay out of these fruitless debates.
- anon0
the logic is quite clear driftlab.
do you really expect a christian (or catholic, or muslim, or whatever) philosopher will undermine his own beliefs with his own knowledge?
- driftlab0
but what if the person, regardless of their persuasion, is just showing arguments from logic which make sense? Like I said, everyone has a foundational belief. And there are plenty of non religious people who believe in the mind - brain division. It seems to be something that comes as a natural conclusion, if you ask me.
- driftlab0
I'm sayin, what if I show you a similar argument that draws the same conclusion, from a non religious person? What do you say then?