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- i_monk0
Countries that are intensely religious are typically less innovative than those that aren’t, according to a new paper published by the National Bureau of Economic Research.
- Not sure if true, doesnt account for political structure or other occult power factions. Nazis were prob greatest inventors in tech at the time n the rootsyurimon
- of their beliefs would not be considered scientific.yurimon
- they were fanatics but yet searched through religious texts.yurimon
- They weren't religious in the same sense as mentioned in this article.monospaced
- dude they believed in aliens, how is that not same.yurimon
- that made me laugh!monospaced
- lolmoldero
- i_monk0
- http://images.t-nati…moldero
- Wat a cuntpango
- cuz Jesus is love right...sherm
- i_monk1
People are leaving Christianity in droves. About 106 million Christians are expected to switch affiliation from 2010 to 2050 while only about 40 million people are expected to enter Christianity.
The religiously unaffiliated (atheists, agnostics) are expected to see the largest net gains from switching, adding more than 61 million followers.
- Goodmonospaced
- China is a good example of atheism n capitalism at work, can't wait for atheist cops haha, oh wait. baltimore.yurimon
- wut?monospaced
- Bullshit. The other data sets in that article predict a net increase (+35%) in people who identify as christian. Contradictory drivel not be trusted.Morning_star
- No they don't. I looked it over and don't see any prediction of an increase.monospaced
- Yes they do. Look again at 'Long term projections' also look at the original analysis 'by the Pew Reserach Centre' in the first blue link.Morning_star
- whos better? dumb atheist or dumb Christians?yurimon
- Is it the Christian? do i get a prize?Morning_star
- Long term shows it going from 31.4 to 33.8%. That's not even close to a big increase. It's indicative of a loss compared to Islam.monospaced
- Not a single chart in the full study shows Christianity gaining. Only losing people until 2050. You are reading it wrong. Sorry.monospaced
- Your previous post includes figures from the stats that show they gain worshipers. It's contradictory drivel as I said before. The point is, you cant trust it.Morning_star
- http://i.imgur.com/T…moldero
- It doesn't show that at all. It shows their "marketshare" not growing much. While the others do grow, it means they are actually losing.monospaced
- Also, its good to point out the study was done by a non-biased religious group, not an anti-religion thing. It's also talking about the span of over 30 years...monospaced
- Here's their own concluding stat from the report: http://www.pewforum.…monospaced
- oops http://l1.yimg.com/b…monospaced
- eh. not working.monospaced
- The increase is an increase in absolute numbers. Almost every single group increased in that respect.yuekit
- Since the world population is growing. But as a percentage Muslims will grow a lot more than the others since there are high fertility rates and lots of youngyuekit
- people in the Middle East and Africa. So it's not contradictory, you just have to understand what they are saying.yuekit
- It's hard to predict the future though. What if there is a pro secular movement in the Muslim world in 20 years?yuekit
- exactly... while it goes up slightly, it represent millions leaving to the other religions/affiliatio...monospaced
- Thank the lord!utopian
- You can lose your overall share while still gain absolute numbers. World population isn't stagnant.BusterBoy
- georgesIII0
Take that science!!
- scarabin4
- Only christian or all religious organization?pango
- My guess all of the bullshitters combinedmoldero
- ^ Moldy is jaded by Christianity. bias is deep in this one.yurimon
- That makes no sense yurimon.monospaced
- get of my d mono, serious. its pretty obvious he is on crusade on every post.yurimon
- Lol can you read Yuri? Mildly mentioned no Christian on this post.pango
- Mildly moldypango
- lets ignore corporations or the core facts of this issue of why people are on welfare. why it has increased.yurimon
- what could we have done with the bankers bail out? trillions of dollars? or war money spent? prob not much?yurimon
- you're right, yuri. let's ignore every other issue in the world because those issues exist.scarabin
- and what's wrong with being on a crusade against christianity? they've been on a crusade against everyone else for over 2000 yearsscarabin
- you might as well be christian with that comment... your not going to focus on the core of our corruption and poverty such as banking?. ic. makes sense.yurimon
- you guys fackin ap yo.yurimon
- One issue at a time man. Quite distracting this issue with another issue.pango
- no, i'm going to stay on topic like a normal personscarabin
- Churches should pay taxes like every other business.********
- i_monk0
Jesus is my proofreader
- moldero4
- This is retarded. The article carries on like Creationism is a valid debate, constantly referring to the common arguments. Are there any creationists on here?Morning_star
- A long time ago there was a guy on here who would do nothing but argue about creationism.yuekit
- I guess he's not around any more. Shame ;)Morning_star
- the scientific process does'nt work in terms of disproof. prove the validity of a theory and is precludes other theories. disproving things is a waste of time********
- makes no sense to try to prove the absence of something. similar to a double negative, its not a productive line of reasoning********
- I think Gramme believes in creationism.iCanHazQBN
- Great... Not another friggin salad...pango
- lolinteliboy
- Science did prove the validity of the theory that the planet is very old. Not a waste of time at all, especially when disproving religious nut job theories.monospaced
- I agree that creationism has zero scientific merit and evolution is basicly fact. My disagreement with your theological stance mono is that you are invested in********
- Debunking other peoples faith. Leave them alone bro, ignorance is bliss. They can have a perfectly full life without ever considering ceolacanths etc********
- first, I have no theological stance since I don't believe in god(s), and I am certainly not invested in debunking anyone's myths.monospaced
- you seem to think I was the one who is posting these thingsmonospaced
- you clearly have me mistaken for someone else around heremonospaced
- OK, that's fine. My original point being that science has no need to react to the folks who are speaking from a place of faith as apose to a position of evidenc********
- Science and faith go wonderfully hand in hand.breadlegz
- All the animosity towards organized religion I see in here is very misplaced. People have done alotta nasty shit in gods name, blah blah, that's irrelevant.********
- Bottom line is that if someone out there derives personal strength from a belief you view as irrational, you have no business trying to sway them otherwise********
- dude, you were the one who posted the article about the nigerian, and don't even try to imply that wasn't supposed to be ridiculing.monospaced
- but I agree, the scientific community should never have to defend itself against myth-based agendas and ideas.monospaced
- Evolution is still a theory right? It hasn't been proven nor disproven. We are presented with findings and reasoning, but no facts. Just sayin.robthelad
- Evolution is a scientific theory, which is as close to proof as can be achieved. The evidence is overwhelming, and almost nothing exists to disprove it.monospaced
- The facts supporting it fill entire rooms of papers and physical evidence all around the world. It's a staggeringly huge amount of facts.monospaced
- Do you know how the first organism evolved from rain on rock, billions and billions of years ago? And how "nothing" exploded to make a big bang?robthelad
- P.S. I'm not a Troll. I like the idea of creationism, and evolution, and how churches have "incorporated" the theory into the bible teachings.robthelad
- Nobody knows for certain the exact process of how life began, but there are some very strong scientific models that aim at a real understanding of its origins.monospaced
- and i think it's admirable that mankind seeks the answer, and doesn't give up and just say, "ah, some omnipotent invisible power made it, so no bother looking."monospaced
- Ha, I've seen that banned TED talk that seemed quite convincing, but of course, Psychedelics were involved in the revelation. I like questions.robthelad
- what was that banned ted talk about?moldero
- this one?
https://www.youtube.…moldero - Yep. TED looked proper dicks after banning that.Morning_star
- cool thanks MS :)moldero
- have you watched it Moldero?Morning_star
- not yet, though i did download it to watch latermoldero
- ********-4
http://www.bilerico.com/2014/01/…
only legit shit goin on here is this quote in referance to facebo0k:
"demons were using the social networking site to infest people"and thats no lie, fb is bad news
- Yurimon?monospaced
- no im new here. i know all about you and yuri though, been creepin here for years and i don't approve of either of you asshats********
- Then you should know that was a fucking joke. So you are already calling me an asshat. Nice start, since I didn't do a damn thing to you.monospaced
- haha relax guy. sensitive much********
- So what's this about fb?monospaced
- lol, Monospaced will kill for his religion you better watch out.yurimon
- Once again...religious nitwits!utopian
- ugh.... not another one....pango
- ok, OK, children,
CALM DOWN!georgesIII - Fb causes marital strife********
- no, it's just a social media platform, it doesn't actively do anything, try againmonospaced
- Whatever Mr literal. You know exactly what I mean. I was just busting you're balls with the asshat comment, take it easy********
- Yeah, I get it. You were pointing out how ridiculous this guy and his followers are, and the demon Facebook thing was like retard icing on the cake. I get it.monospaced
- ********-2
From a scientific standpoint, as organic beings, good and evil do exist in the form of order and entropy.
At any rate, there are forces that control us, that we in turn do not in turn control, ie a higher power. How about math and physics, they fit the bill for a higher power. Being rational and religious isn't mutually exclusive. Deism is cool. The most balanced approach is always the most informed approach- How do you equate order and entropy to good and evil? Which is which? How does that explain how all things are in a process of constant entropy? Truly curious.monospaced
- We are beings of order, order is life, entropy is the return to a less ordered state ie death. Evolution = shit getting more ordered********
- I would argue that we are beings of entropy just as much. Mutations, natural disasters, punctuated equilibrium, etcmonospaced
- and of course, there can be no life without death ;)monospaced
- so yeah, yuri. hi yuri.scarabin
- Na, i think im more pragmatic than Yuri is willing to be, we see eye to eye on some of it. Not a conspiracy guy though********
- Dont pigeon hole me. I post different things in hoping for intelligent responses or make people think. you guys always turn out to be nuckleheads about it.yurimon
- Yay Yuri has a friend now.pango
- I'm your friend pango.yurimon
- he reminds me of son.yurimon
- Incorrect on both. Son was racist and crazy.pango
- What I want to know is how you got a green name, gilgamush??formed
- He's a Lv 46 Lotus Wizard. that's how.pango
- keed. all new user who registered after the site's redesign are by default green.pango
- till a blue name user certify them as not one of those cheap chinese shoes spam, then they get blue name.pango
- maybe son learned not to be banned by being racist. it has his finger printed speech pattern. or its an agent.yurimon
- First... Wat? He learned not to be banned by being racist... But he is banned. O_o. Second... Wat? An agent? An agent from cunt land?pango
- oh you mean gilgamush might be son?.
Nahh. Son wasn't capable of finishing a sentence properly.pango - You can call anything you want a higher power. The mistake religious make it projecting a human face onto it.yuekit
- Yuekit, I agree********
- Morning_star0
"good and evil do exist in the form of order and entropy."
Could you explain a little further Gilgamush.
Good and Evil are subject and relative concepts that, as far as i can see, don't relate directly to either Order or Entropy. I imagine, from your perspective, that Good = Order and Entropy = Evil, but why?
There are a myriad concepts that cover the Good / Evil relationship. One particular favourite of mine does away with Evil completely and centers everything around the unique position of 'Good'.
With regard to your claim that the most balanced approach is the most informed, i'm gonna call horse-shit. The mere existence of an 'expert' in anything makes that argument invalid.
Welcome to QBN by the way.
- * 'subject' should read "subjective"Morning_star
- I think he is referencing natural law.yurimon
- but im not sure if its natural law as far how it would play out in nature.yurimon
- I wouldn't agree with doing away with evil. I'm not sure you what your experience is with subject but There are different forces as far as perceived intent andyurimon
- from an energetic standpoint in how people are effected. Also the anomaly of the psychopath is worth investigating as part of this negative force.yurimon
- I'd say from a universal law point of view perhaps it wouldnt favor good or bad as long as whoevers actions are in accordance with natural law.yurimon
- What is 'Evil'? How do you measure it? Can i buy it? Are animals 'Evil' or is it a purely human construct? Do ISIS believe they are evil?Morning_star
- Like cause and effect for example. like doing nothing waiting to be saved is prob the best example while evil is in organized group action for a planned outcomeyurimon
- obvious advantage doesn't favor those who dont act in proper accordance with universal law. what you think?yurimon
- I gotta get to work, I'll follow up with y'all later on********
- good/evil still remains subjectivemonospaced
- From what i understand, Universal law must be presented in a mathematical way. Have you a formula or link to the mathematical formula for evil?Morning_star
- as for the expertise comment, we are talking about theology, something that can be likened to the belief in unicorns if not balanced with rational thought********
- horse shit and invalid arguments? how can anyone argue that having balance is bad, whats yer deal are you upset or something********
- Its not subjective. its like saying male and female is subjective. Its more subtle then most people understand because it has energetic attributes.yurimon
- Its same problem that extreme scientifically minded have in defining consciousness. the properties of a psychopath is a good example of evil physicalyurimon
- in a physical form. if you were going to create a comparison.yurimon
- the negative effect of emotional trauma are very much so understood by science. the mind body connection isn't so showing the physical manifestation of personal********
- -ity disorders is currently not possiable. the causality is well understood though man. trauma=antisocial, chaos=more entropy, never ending cycle of madness unt********
- -ill a balance is reached********
- psychopathy is not a personality disorder. you need to look up what it really is. there is no cure.yurimon
- I don't care about psychobable********
- psychopathy |sīˈkäpəTHē|
noun
mental illness or disorder.pango - sorry to say but both you guys are dumb.yurimon
- definition doesnt express what is in its entirety. its a bigger topic but you both miss the point, but should i expect anything more.yurimon
- Ya I'm dumb because I'm not interested in pschobable semantics. w/e guy********
- thats dumb of you to say because the point wasnt psychology in essence. thats how how smart you are for just picking up on one word in whole range of thought.yurimon
- Monospaced and Son had a baby.yurimon
- Ya whatever bro, u mad********
- Hey i didn't say what it is. Oxford did. Go challenge oxford if you have a different opinion.pango
- You did say we need to look up what it is. so i looked in the dictionary. You just mad cuz you're wrong and it's not what you think it is.pango
- I'm not mad, but i understand pango or you is not going to change in his intelligence. i'm sure pango is a nice guy but i dont think he has intellectual depth.yurimon
- I like how he makes assumptions on topics from just one word in a dictionary that is not accurate in describing certain concepts that were presented earlier.yurimon
- my last post to pango. going to have to ignore till he he becomes brunette.yurimon
- ********-1
cool, thanks m_s. yea good and evil are subjective, a semantic argument can be made that everything is subjective but that line of existential reasoning doesn't interest me. from a purely scientific stance, we are beings of order. from biology to sociology, humanity and even life itself is moving along a trend of becoming more and more orderly ie more complex. from a single celled organism to the mess we are today, saying we are beings of entropy is just wrong. life itself is the miraculous order out of the chaos. remind anyone of the first bit in the book of genesis? this is where the spirituality comes in, the divine probability of it all. one day billions of years ago the simplest form of life organized itself and through the goodness inherent in life itself has become ever increasingly more complex. complexity=order, the dead void of space=entropy. 'life is good' is the only subjective value judgement i'm willing to make here, everything else is just science. evil or badness is that which is conducive to a decrease in complexity or order. on a personal level think the ten commandments, on a universal level think black holes which rip apart matter into it's most basic components. as for a formula for evil, cmon now this is a theological discussion, lines get blurred, you gotta be flexable. the tenet that life is good is the only presumption here, the rest is basic natural science. order=life chaos=death good and evil are too simple to warrant some kind of complicated formula. its all pretty simple really
/rant- I think its more simple then that.
Good and evil is a force. You have a duality like male and female. each has its own quality, attributes and characteristics.yurimon - At the same time you have good and evil with each having its on quality, attributes and characteristics. However it is only within the scope of our ownyurimon
- nice rant. i would certify you.********
- experience or reality or consciousness.
good and evil has energetic attributes as well. so i dont see how you transmute the opposite thing to what you are saynyurimon - yuri what your saying sounds quite egocentric to me. as humans we tend to think our free will is more consequential than it is. that somehow the evil we are cap********
- -able of is anything more than introducing entropy into the societal order and nothing more. life is good and life will go on with or without us egotists********
- i sapose your taking a much more humanistic stance than i. please elaborate, i dont think i get what yer saying********
- You should study other works. like kabalah in how they interpret things. pretty interesting.yurimon
- Ya man. kabalah's trending now. even madona's in there too.pango
- its 5000k old system. c young archetype system comes directly from it. other modern concepts you take for granted. typical Kim Kardashian type response from u.yurimon
- is how old of an system relevant to how true it is? it just means its old and might have influenced other believes. but if it's not valid from the beginning.pango
- it's not valid today.pango
- how come its not valid if its concepts contently being adapted or borrowed from? you dont even know what it is and speak from the anusyurimon
- I prefer the pizza version though.********
- I think its more simple then that.
- scarabin0
- ooh you will get zero comments because they are god's chosen people anyway..georgesIII
- people of the bookApeRobot
- georgesIII1
chck 2 da fuckn m8
- that is hilarious********
- hilariously assumptive and incorrectmonospaced
- Atheism ≠ evolution-worship, Darwinism, materialism, etc.i_monk
- bwaaahahahaha so, because i dont believe in god i'll just sit by and watch another human drown... jesus fucking christcruddlebub
- that is hilarious
