Designing 4 designers
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- setsolid0
NTB: "Look at the site with blue cicles, its what a good designer is all about"
PBS: "Hey cheak this new blueball site i just found, i think its very cool, because I THINK that is what a good designer is all about"
PVN: "hey check out my new portfolio site!!, i use half blue cicle with little bit of pink on the side which is very creative, can anyone give me some feedbacks?"
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- setsolid0
NTB: "Our super star deisgner just update his portfolio site, it use all sans-serf font, white background, text button links, in a onepage layout, i think this is what a real portfolio is about, its so CLEAN and simple"
PBS: "Hey cheak this new folio site i just found, i think its very cool, because I agree that all good folio site are simple, clean. It also use a one page lay out on white, what im tring to say is, this is amazing folio site, but don't look at the work in the portfolio site, because its not very good, and not done yet.... but the folio site is very cool... i can't explan, i just think its cool, i mean it also use one page design.
PVN: "hey check out my new portfolio site!!, after months of research, i found this new style of design for my portfolio. it does not use any helvitica, i use Univer!and its set one one page over white backgound. Now you can view my work FAST... but i don't have much to show right now, i got 3 sample of work to show. But this is a very clean design. please take a look!
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- rabattski0
the bigger picture is that any website has a certain function and/or a certain purpose. if it doesn't fullfill this function or purpose it's not effective and thus redundant.
the function / purpose determines what you say, how you say it and what you use to say it.
so yeah looking at people, in this case, the target audience is very important but if you need to build a css site to do this or a flash site doesn't really matter as long as the tools you use solve the problems.
all this in a nutshell ofcourse.
- version30
lack of creativity.
fear of peer rejection.
- rabattski0
haha peer rejection or peer acception! those are really the last of the last i would be very remotely interested in what they think off it. it's so not important and so missing the point.
- version30
when i say peer, i dont refer to "friends" but who the designer feels will be judgemental of his work on a professional non involved levels. i.e. all of us judging one another. even when clicks hang out there is alot of similarity in dress slang and attitude. i don't see why that wouldn't transfer into digital communities as well
- dan_dan_dan0
Elaboration is good. The "bigger picture", isn't only becoming bigger, but clearer.
I would still like to her you elaborate for us fresnobob.
It's just that when the idea--in this case--of a "bigger picture", is introduced, it's always nice if the one introducing it can tell us more about it.
Kind of like introducing a friend.
- dan_dan_dan0
You can't just shout that people don't get it, you have to share with them HOW to get it, or what's to get.
If not, change will take longer to happen. (if that's what one wants--change)
- ********0
Designing for designers is a waste of time. Who gives a crap if a site is tableless. There are far better pissing contests to get involved in.
- skelly0
" I agree that desing should be usable, or accessible, however usability is still a very small part of things."
That statement bothers me. I think design is essentially all about communication. Whatever style you use is just icing. A good piece of design isn't going into the history books because it features tightly kerned helvetica bold with the counterspaces knocked out. it has to communicate first and foremost, and if something isn't usable then it's not communicating.
- rabattski0
dan_dan & uberdesigner: yes you can shout that people don't get it nor do you have to share it with them how to get it or what's there to get it etc. if that's the function and/or purpose of the site you can do all of that.
for instance i remember this site for an electonic music act (forgot which one but quit well known) and in order to understand that site you even had to look at the source code which had hidden info regarding the site. functional gui wise? hells no! functional purpose wise? hells yeah!
all that said designing for designers isn't a waste of time perse. if they are you target audience it's just like any other site / approach.
version, i understand what you mean but what i'm trying to say that you do a job for a client and not for peer acceptance. if your peers happen to like it as well then that ofcourse is cool but that's an extra not a goal in itself. at all. however i do agree that peer "pressure" can lead to better products / designs because you want to outsmart or be better than your peers. outsmarting your peers != peer acceptance.