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- MACAS0
Why do we do that?
http://www.37signals.com/svn/arc…
I mean, I don't care if a top webdeveloper is impressed, I care about the people.
Right?
:)
- version30
social acceptance amongst our "peers"
- skelly0
Most designers are on the computer 24/7. It's easy to forget the average user isn't as familiar as we are with navigating websites. Showing your awesome new website to your non-designer friends or family is always a good wake up call. Resist the urge to yell "Obviously you click right here!"
- version30
Most designers are on the computer 24/7. It's easy to forget the average user isn't as familiar as we are with navigating websites. Showing your awesome new website to your non-designer friends or family is always a good wake up call. Resist the urge to yell "Obviously you click right here!"
skelly
(Apr 2 05, 16:50)
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das true
- scarabin0
it seems like a lot of our major style trends come from the web, with designers constantly trying to outdesign each other.
i think it's healthy.
- scarabin0
it breeds, of course, innovation which branches outward to print and clothing, broadcasting...
- version30
design has recently become appearance not accessibility lately
it may look cooler but its still hard to find your way around is the point some are trying to get at. i can attest for people not knowing how to navigate websites
some know some dont. the opinion is that it should be for all to easily navigate
not that i agree with that opinion. if you cant figure it out, then that places you in a certain level amongst others
seperation is good
- skelly0
healthy as long as usability doesn't suffer. although some people set the bar for usability REALLY low. i watched a video on web users and this one woman took 5 minutes to figure out how to get past the splash page. the button was labeled "ENTER"
the study said it was poorly designed, but i would argue the splash page effectively kept all the idiots out of the website ;)
- andre_andreev0
also, designers, just like regular "users" need to be educated in some way.
- dan_dan_dan0
"i would argue the splash page effectively kept all the idiots out of the website."
Exceptional statement. HAHA. Love it.
- fresnobob0
"it seems like a lot of our major style trends come from the web, with designers constantly trying to outdesign each other."
but thats all they are. shitty style trends. in order for something bigger and better to come out of graphic design, we all have to get over our "style trends" and look at the bigger picture.
- scarabin0
i think people ARE paying attention to useability and "the big picture"- when it matters.
the people that aren't, aren't successful at what they do.
style trends are masturbation. nothing wrong with that.
- fresnobob0
"i think people ARE paying attention to useability and "the big picture"- when it matters."
I agree that desing should be usable, or accessible, however usability is still a very small part of things.
"style trends are masturbation. nothing wrong with that."
yeah, you're right.
- dan_dan_dan0
What's the, "Bigger Picture"?
- fresnobob0
"What's the, "Bigger Picture"?"
Exactly.
- scarabin0
i took it to mean whatever the message of the design is supposed to be.
- scarabin0
could be mistaken though
- arseni0
I always let my gf or aunt to look at my work during the process or before showing it to a client. The're not computer geeks, so when i see that they can't figure how to use the website it tells me ive done something wrong.
On the other hand, i don't have to listen to them if i do a website for a software company.
- dan_dan_dan0
"Exactly"?
fresnobob:
Care to elaborate? You say exactly, but can't provide any substance on the matter.
Exactly, what?
- MACAS00
There's is a Mom and Pop operation in town with a lot of clients, and when you look at their sites, they're just awful, code wise, but everything is where you want when you want it. The owner, which is an older person, told me that people don't like it when you talk to them about adding, re-doing something in standards or coding techniques they don't understand, they do not give squash about accessibility or CSS, they want a site.
And a site can bring revenues no matter how it was coded right?
:)
- swampygav0
I think design can be a really introvert thing. Almost as if non-design people are the "stupid" ones. Why is it that advertising is the only way to speak to the masses. Speak up people!