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- moondog0
pfft.
i got one cajun jew and one tibetan buddhist what raised me up. those kids were whack! made me read confucious, mostly.
salad bar religion, innit?
- GeorgiePorgie0
hahahaa
- ********0
confuscious ain't a religion!
"when the wind blows, the grass must bend"
oOooOOoooo
- moondog0
confuscious ain't a religion!
"when the wind blows, the grass must bend"
oOooOOoooo
Kes(Mar 24 05, 06:07)
prescisely. but that's a holy book to some, see?
just like don quixote.
or s/z.
- ********0
My hero is St Francis of Asisi
seriously.
"And he walked like St Francis, filled with love...."
- moondog0
i reckin you'd love santa teresa de avila...
- ********0
who's that?
- moondog0
spanish saint from the sixteenth.
total nutter. lots of extasy/erotism and some genderbending thrown in for good measure.
- ********0
ooo la la. sounds like someone i should know something about!
- Ell0
can't be bothered to read all the responses to this.
Can someone some it up for me in a short paragraph? Did that discipler bloke turn up?
- discipler0
Wow... I'm amazed how many people buy into the relatively new faith called "Evolution" and even speak of it as fact (when it doesn't even qualify as a scientific theory) without batting an eye or doing an honest objective study of it's claims, or the the claims of it's alternative, Intelligent Design (and Creationism). There is a pervading pseudo-intellectuality here that is disturbing to say the least.
Let me share some facts that may hopefully spur some honest seekers to do a thoughtful and objective study of origins. Those who vehemently adhere to an evolutionary model for origins do so without bothering to either take a hard look at some of evolution's assumptions, or to wrestle with the real problems that it faces. They have accepted evolution on the basis of authority, because their professors or academic gurus told them so - a kind of faith. Consider as well the very brief time this belief has been around.
It should be noted that Intelligent Design does not ignore the variation and range of adaptibility displayed by living organisms. What it does posit is that the range of adaptibility of organisms is finite. The genome of a dog yields a tremendous range of phenotypical expression, from Chihuahuas to Great Danes... but at the end of the day, they are both still dogs, not cats. And this is exactly what science actually observes. No scientist has ever seen a dog become something other than a dog, or vice-versa. Louis Pasteur's famous observation, that life only comes from life, has never been disproved. His experiments have already falsified all claims that life originated from primordial goo, but philosophical considerations - not facts, not science - prevent this from being accepted by evolutionists. So, which model of origins requires more faith?
What honest seekers need to learn about is such biochemical marvels as the clotting cascade, the chemistry of vision, the bacterial flagellum, and countless others, and decide which hypothesis better explains what is observed, random evolution? or, a creative intelligent guiding force? For biochemical "machines" to function, you must first have all the parts available. Evolution cannot exert selective pressures on something that is non-functioning in the first place. The common sense behind this observation should be manifest to every person who does not have an episemological axe to grind.
Here is a question so fundamental to biological life that it is a wonder that evolution has yet to explain it: if the mechanism by which a trait is inhereted is that it conveys a survival advantage to the possessor, then why are we not all self-fertile hermaphrodites, like earthworms? Dimorphic sexuality - male and female - has no reason to ever arise under evolution since every organism would already have within itself the seeds of its own survival.
Intelligent Design and Creationism is not about illegitimately imposing the dictates of faith upon science, but about raising rational objections to proposed Darwinian explanations of the biological world.
Some specific points to further research, which demonstrate the devastating holes in macro evolution are...
1. The complete lack of transitional fossils between species. The record only contains fully formed species. Consistent with the genome explanation above.
2. The tension between Evolution and Entropy (The Second Law of Thermodynamics). A proven scientific law which states that the universe is breaking down... decaying, if you will. This flies in the face of the macro evolutionary model. The open/closed system arguement has been shown to not hold any water either.
3. Closed experiments intended to generate life via heated pools with electrical charges, etc... have failed miserably, producing nothing that could generate human cells. (See Pasteur's experiments.
)4. Evolution's inability to account for human emotion, the desire to love and be loved and express compassion.
There are countless other foundation crumbling problems with evolution, but I think this post is lengthy enough. And as for the Big Bang - perfectly consistent with the creation model. By posulating it you only push the issue of origins a step back. Who initiated said, Big Bang?
- moondog0
omfg.
does that answer your question, ell?
- GeorgiePorgie0
Blasphemy, all of you!
- ********0
jesus discipler. You are the biggest dumb-ass.
I'm not even gonna start with you.
You must take us all for idiots. Well, you most obviously do.
- discipler0
No need for personal attacks. Please respond directly to the points I've raised and explain how they are incorrect.
- moondog0
*yawn
serves us right for lookin' at one of these religion threads in the first place.
- GeorgiePorgie0
discipler has some good points and I studied Science in school. There is a middle level we need to go with, Not easy to preach that though.
- Ell0
The differences between th Beliefs of a Conservative Christian and a Liberal Christian..
Makes interesting reading http://www.religioustolerance.or…
- ********0
shut up Jaz, ur an idiot.
ur right moondog, but i cant help but take the bait..
eugh, the most fundamental stupidity in the things he says. like eugh!
- ********0
yo discipler, what the difference between a dog and fox?