my rant by dfd
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- fernando0
dfd
Bruce mau was on charlie rose last week. i don't know if you know who charlie rose is but he puts on a good show
http://www.charlierose.com/thisw…
you can actually purchase this program on audible.com
- ********0
I like it how some people go around talking about postmodernism without really having a clue what that is...
- DutchBoy0
Kuz, i think he left the thread already.
- MLVR0
And oh, great thread by the way, and dfd I hope you get your motivation back soon... The design industry certainly needs thinkers of your calibre...
- ********0
ha. thanks for filling me in janne :)
- iDp0
'And oh, great thread by the way'
I was just thinking that!
- dfd0
Thanks MLVR.
the new year is around the corner, and i think it's time for me do use what i've learned from "graphic" design and apply it to something more meaningful than stationery, corporate identities or websites.
i've very optimistic, regardless of how the world* looks like now.
*notice how i did NOT say the "design" world or "graphic design" world. that's the idea behind this thread.
- DutchBoy0
*hugs dfd.
you don't know half how alike we are, my friend.
:)
- MLVR0
somehow i think this quote sums up this whole discussion.
"There are obviously two educations. One should teach us how to make a living and the other how to live."
I might be really tired though.
- Duane0
Excellent thread. These things are at the top of my mind right now as well.
As design professionals, it's our responsibility to force people to think and in the process, raise the collective IQ. As Tibor Kalman points out, artists have always pushed society forward - knowingly or not - expanding comprehension of concepts and visuals. If we feel it is satisfactory to simply produce pretty widgets than it will become the norm.
I don't want to ever feel that this is just a job. There's got to be more to design than just being able to operate a computer program or two. I just want to make my clients money, make them happy, and make enough to do what I love. It only feels right when you're making money doing what you love - then it doesn't even feel like work.
Keep fightin' Joe.
- mr_snuggles0
Very nice MLVR. This definitely was a very moving and inspiring thread, for the most part.
Now I just feel bad for calling dfd a hippie all those times.
- dfd0
I trully believe that there are so many designers thinking and feeling the same way.
People NEED to remember:
Design is not always what you see.Bruce Mau is such a huge inspiration to me, but he's not the ONLY one. When I began workign at the University of Toronto Press, and learned that that's where Bruce also started out (designing book covers) I narturally formed immediately a fond appreciation for his work. his design work. but as time went by, i became absorbed by his thinking outside of what i used to think is what i was built for.
in fact, i've realized today that "graphic" design is only but a vehicle for how we can all make a change.
- MLVR0
In college we actually had a brief challenging us to come up with a design concept 'for a good cause'. I think it's good and important that it starts at that level. And it seems that happens at a lot of places, when I got back to Sweden after my studies in Sydney I heard that they were doing similiar stuff at design schools here in Stockholm.
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However I think it's strange that schools don't teach designers the value of integrity though.
- Beech0
great thread guys, i can definately relate dfd.
I work full time, which is good but this year i tried to do some work on the side, some for me (personal/experience stuff) and some for a refugee advocacy agency. I enjoyed it and got a lot out of it but I just became so busy and got so tired all the time, my lifestyle suffered so i've cut it back.
i don't think coments like "design has been crap for 10/15 years since post modernism" either make any sense ... or add anything to a discussion. They represent the kind of closed mind that will stop creative progress.
Additionally, not a day goes by when i don't see at least one peice of design and say "hey, thats cool"
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That makes me happy with my chosen profession.
- dfd0
Design schools, well, those that I know of, in general are like cookie cutter (again, quotting iDp) manufacturers. Some turn out really good, and some are just good enough to not hit the reject box.
They teach you principles, and that "rules are meant to be broken" and the "think outside the box" bullshit lines.
They are valuable, however, they fail to teach you how to "live" in design, mearely just how to make a living desinging.
- MLVR0
dfd, agree... that's probably the result of schools being private and demanding profit. However I think one brief, like the one I got can be very important for a lot of the students. Let's just hope it is for the students that actually are going to work within the industry.
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Had a look at your portfolio, good stuff. I love the poster, whould've bought one if I could afford it.
- mr_snuggles0
My wife had a project/competition in College that was a team effort over the course of one weekend to design an "Aid" package for disastor relief. Could be whatever you could imagine within reason and with obvious constraints. I think her team placed third, but it's an excellent project that should be mandatory.
- Duane0
That poster looks beautiful.
- dfd0
I bought the massive change book today. I'm gonna induldge myself in it now.
Maybe I'll bring back this thread to life one day.
Thanks to all who posted and listened to my bitching.
- dfd0