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- bk_shankz0
I think many of the fossils do show the devlopment of higher complexity structures in the body. From cartilage fish to bone fish. What are you looking for?
- Donvitoviti0
wow.. i didnt realize it fate..
DRAWINGS PROVE it all!
- Blofeldt0
You presuppose that humans have found everything there is to find. Which is frankly nonsense. So, hey, why bother making a faster computer, because we can't discover, or learn, or find anything new because we know everything already, and what we don't know can be cleared up by the bible.
- gabriel20
Here's a better analogy then, Don,
How did we get from this:
To this:
- bk_shankz0
But those drawings are based on real fossils.
- fate0
Don, those are based on skeletons and fossil records buddy. I don't know why you want to keep denying basic facts like Neanderthals. It's not like we just made up these species and their names.
- Donvitoviti0
lol.. sorry man.. that is just lame. I could give you 100s of pictures that shows the path of that.. from chip embeded keys to remote controls dating back to Tesla.
That all form a path of how a remote key happens.
anyway.. you are talking man made things... totally wrong angle
- Blofeldt0
You're dead right Gabriel.
If you placed those two seemingly unconnected objects together with no knowledge of their eveolution, you'd be mystified if some said, hey, i reckon these are oth related and perform a similar function.That's where we are with geology i believe.
Also, before the early 1800's any mysterious big bones were generally ignored because they didn't even fit into the bibiles literaual interterpretaion
- Donvitoviti0
In so called millions and millions of so called years all you can dig up is a deformed skeleton. Deformaties are not proof of evolution.
- Donvitoviti0
ok.. anyway.. work time.
The building blocks of life had to come from somewhere. Even if there was a big bang.. where did the materials for this big bang come from. Did they just appear out of nothing?
It takes just as much faith to believe in that as it does in a higher being.
- Blofeldt0
You're an idiot Don. The arguement with the Gariels keys shows how two seemingly unrelated objects have eveolved from one to the other. If you don't know anything about keys, you wouldn't know that. You've fucked up your own argument. It can be related to fossils because we can't describe things we don't know.
But there's lots to find out. And maybe at the end of it all, we'll decide the Bibile is right. But i'm not accepting that just yet.
- gabriel20
"Deformaties are not proof of evolution."
Vague religious beliefs are not proof to the contrary...
- gabriel20
"The building blocks of life had to come from somewhere. Even if there was a big bang.. where did the materials for this big bang come from. Did they just appear out of nothing?"
By that logic you've just negated the existance of god since god would need to have been created by something else before...
- Donvitoviti0
I did not negate anything.
i said.. it takes just as much faith to believe in god as it does the big bang.. that is my point.
Anyway.. when name calling starts out in these arguments and work calls.. both are my exit.
- discipler0
Gabriel, God is considered the "uncaused first cause". He transcends the boundaries of time and space, as it's creator. He had no beginning and has no end. This is an entire discussion in itself.
fate, how mature of you to employ name calling in your rants. Very effective. Now, after you go back and read what I posted above, you'll need to look at the following:
http://www.answersingenesis.org/…
For further study, I highly recommend this book:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obido…
See fate, a careful study will help you understand that what you have pictured in your illustration above are animal-humanoid species that became extinct and that there is 0 scientific evidence of any species to species transitions.
- gabriel20
"He transcends the boundaries of time and space..."
He must live in the twilight zone. And I refuse to believe in god until someone gives me scientific evidence that he exists...
- discipler0
Gabriel, atheists and the like object that positing God only raises more questions without answering the original question of the origin of the universe. It only moves the question back a step, so that instead of asking how the universe came into existence, we ask how God came into existence.
However, this objection is true of any proposed explanation for the beginning of the universe, including those proposed by scientists and/or atheists. If the current universe came about through the Big Bang, what caused the Big Bang? If the Big Bang was caused by a Big Crunch, what caused the Big Crunch, and where did all the matter that is contracting and expanding come from?
Actually, positing God does answer some questions which aren't answered by scientific explanations. Positing an immaterial, powerful being as an uncaused cause explains how the physical universe could have come to exist without relying on the existence of matter in some prior universe. And positing God provides a starting point to answer philosophical questions about the purpose of the universe and our lives, which scientific explanations can't address.
- discipler0
look around, gabriel.
Wherever there is intelligent design, there is an intelligent designer. Just consider the breathtaking complexity of a single strand of DNA.
Tell me, if a factory that manufactured wrist watch components exploded... do you think it is likely that a perfectly intact and operational wrist watch would land fully assembled in a field nearby? Mmmm... probably not.
Consider the complexity of DNA compared to a wrist watch.
- jevad0
STFU
- gabriel20
So what was the intelligent design behind world war II? Just curious...