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- Mimio0
Thanks for sharing Junetic, but I didn't ask. Good luck with your new age religion.
- junetic0
good luck with your ego mimio....
- mrdobolina0
We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing all-powerful God, who creates faulty Humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes.
- slinky0
still no TF review?
- froww0
Mr. b... I would definitely question a God/faith that taught that.
In contrast, the Bible teaches that God created humans with the capacity to choose - a free will. Sin and imperfection was introduced via humans. God made the perfect provision for this sin through the sacrifice of his perfect son.
- mrdobolina0
good point froww, I was just sayin'
- mrdobolina0
hhahaha
- Mimio0
Ahhhh Froww,
You see there is no freewill in such a universe as you describe and believe in. If god is omnipotent and exists beyond time, then everyting that occurs in such a universe god would have preknowledge of. In such a scenario God would be effectively creating people with full knowledge that he would be sending them to hell upon thier deaths. Sounds pretty sadistic, but then again strange things appease the God of the blood cult.
- one2meny0
"God is dead" is the most ill quoted statement ever. I'm sorry, but unless you are pursuing a Ph D in Philosophy, have one, or can explain to me in a 5 page paper what Nietszche and all philosophers of language such as Bertrand Russell and Wittgenstein mean by such a statement, then don't quote it. We don't need ignorance promoting ignorance.
- Mimio0
Actually it's totally appropriate. Neitzche meant that society as a whole was moving from one system of natural order to a new one based on scientific laws & observations (Newtonian revolution). The fact that people by and large don't blame god for their poor harvest or seek reasons for other hapinstance through a supernatural explaination.
- lowimpakt0
if god is omnipotent can 'he' create a rock that even 'he' cannot lift?
- froww0
Mimio - hardly the place for a dissertation on the relationship and apparent paradox between God's sovereignty and the human free will. However... of course God knows who will choose Him and who will not. This does not make Him the author of sin and humanity's rebellion, however. He created us with the ability to choose, knowing what we will choose. I suggest that the relationship between our free will and His sovereignty transcends our finite minds, ultimately. But, God will not force His spirit on anyone, nor will He force anyone into eternal separation from Him.
Though sovereign and omniscient, we are still left with the ability to choose. God sends no one to Hell... we decide whether or not we accept His one and only provision, or not. Therefore, we decide where we will spend eternity.
- gordon0
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/enter…
I hope you don't mind me 'resurrecting' this extremely interesting thread. I went to see it two nights ago in the uk..
Very distressing, very very sad.
- rabattski0
i'm just curious. why is jezus still depicted as a white guy?
- jg_20
very mucho sorry, but i hate this thread, as much as christ
:(
- Mr_Jump0
Jesus was from Palestine, Jerusalem area. U seen Palestinians on the news lately? THey're hardly black... But prolly not as white as in that movie....dunno
- jg_20
well jesus was black. just read the bible. i dont remember which part..... and i am not joking
- rabattski0
he was a brother.
- Mr_Jump0
Serious??? I thought it said in the bible "and his skin was as white as the wool of a lamb" or some such. Any theologians verify this?