16mm film support!?
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- DirtyShit
thanx ahead to anyone who can help..
im looking into gettin a 16mm film camera they seem relativly costeffective. i wanted to konw if anyone had any suggestions for any kind of camera that woudl be quick to pick up and use i have a little bit of photography experience but none with film.. i ve never had any hands on training. but i get the idea also .. does anyone know who can process the film from the camera to develop and transfer to dvd to edit. THANX>>>
- ********0
arriflex or bolex (no sound)
- ********0
- ********0
my father owned a frigging Arriflex 16mm.
He bought it for (with audio equipment) about 40k euros at the time, and never asked me if i was interested before he sold it for only 6k... :(
I still have the compact Canon Scoopic 16mm. with case.
much cheaper..
btw. you can rent them, look good, since prices differ.
and why not start experimenting with 8mm? it is a lot cheaper, and once you feel ready make the step to 16 mm..
- ********0
thx for depressing me again.. remembering that thing on my shoulder.. tis magic! fantastic lenses too.
too bad he sold it fo' cheapo.. :'(
- ********0
well, there's always time to re-invest in, uh, ...what's that called, oh yea, film....so, whatever you do, represent film for films sake
- ********0
i am hoping to do something with the Scoopic soon.. i'll have to find something worth spending film on.
video isn't all that.
but yeah, use film for film's sake.
*bows
- r_gaberz0
get an 8mm cam first.
They are as cheap as dead kittens and film development + transfer is also unbelievable inexpensive.
wui.... tragic story 4cy.
I'd have kicked my fathers ass if he ever did something like that, but he's mine is a nice dad.... just brought me a 200 year old violin.
- idsgn0
definately hit up Super8 or 8mm before heading to 16.
equipment/film/processing is all really cheap and easy to use
- TNDAP0
Canono Scoopic
Aaton
- TNDAP0
Just the equipment is ceaper the pricing for developing is about the same.
- whiteSneaks0
the telecine is what gets pricey. i would go with 16mm if you think you may want to blow it up someday
- ********0
and if cash is no issue, go with 35 or even 70 mm!
:D
- sk0
i have a bolex super 16 camera.
bc i love the widescreen format.check out
http://www.chamblesscineequip.co…
they do 16mm bolex camera to super 16mm conversions.
- digitalswarm0
Or just get an awesome DVcam and buy Magic Bullet... which is also awesome.
- quamb0
ouch- wish i could afford using 16mm just for fucken around.
wow.
even 8mm makes me sweat on budget.
DV is like film that has been spewed over by a dog then scanned with 10% jpg compression. ugh.
mmnm tho those big mother hi def dv cams look tastey
- pr20
don't buy it! the cam might be cheap at first, but cost of film and development will kill you. 3mins of color film + development will go for about $40 -$45. That means that to make a feature project all with one perfect take it will cost you about: $1500 film + development alone.
People who say that DV is crap never learned to use their cameras properly. Progressive DV (Pannasonic DVX100) is comparable to 16mm.
- quamb0
pr2- i know how to use an xl1with ease, though just love the way film handles light as opposed to tape.
if you cant see the difference, you're blind.
sure if one had the option for better equipment dv is brilliant- if not equalling film. though im stuck with semi-pro equipment, ending up spending alot of time scrubbing away that 'dv-look'.
perhaps i need a dv-dop expert to help me out, as its not the skills of the camera that is the problem.
- pr20
I used only PD150 and DVX100 and only played with XL1. And yeah, PD150 and XL1 cuts into white and black quicker then film. Still comparing the cost saying that DV is crap is HUGE overstatement.
If you are using FCP3 (or below) then color correction is a bit tedious so most people don't play enough with it. I use Avid Xpress Pro - it has a superb color corrector. There is nothing one can't do to the footage to make it relatively easily film like.
In the end cost of film/devolopment kill film in favor of DV.
- r_gaberz0
8 mm is cheap quamb!
1 film costs 19 euro (development included)
and a transfer can be as cheep as 0.76 Euro / meter.
- quamb0
agreed pr- cost wise
to get 8mm processed here in melbourne is going to cost me a fair amount (for the poor lad)- about $30US for every 6 minutes or so.