New David Carson Book...
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- Skylark0
bajs
- jevad0
dude sweet - I was #100!
- rasko40
yeah but the burning issue here is...
bath or shower?
- Bluejam0
"Like his work on not, he is the most impactful art director of our generation, and changed type/design forever."
*cough*
Herbert Spencer (was changing typography in the fifties way before DC was all but a twinkle in his dad's eye.
*cough*
William Burroughs was cut'n'pasting text (more literary than design) in the fifties and changing the way we read.
*cough*
Jamie Reid was at the forefront of the punk movement and showed us what the photocopier could do in terms of image reproduction.
*cough*
Neville Brody
Art Direction for The Face and Id magazines...showed us what desktop publishing was all about.
- ********0
"Like his work on not, he is the most impactful art director of our generation, and changed type/design forever."
Changed type design??
No what he did was tried using type conceptually, emotionally, or to put it into plain english
ILLEGIBLITY.Carson always harped on about every turn of a page should be treated with real emotion hence the chaos I think, all he did was tire the reader out too quickly with his typographic obstacle course and make a pretty magazine as apose to something worth reading!!
Carson = form over content = not design.
To me he was/is an artist or a graphic illustrator. Unfortunatley for Carson artists don't have to give reasons for what they do, where as designers have to justify their actions, through consideration, structure, layout ...etc
- Jnr_Madison0
I wouldn't wipe my dogs arse with his work.
- benfal990
David Carson speaking:
http://www.fontshop.de/fuse95/fu… (.aiff sound)the work of Jamie Reid: http://www.jamiereid.uk.net/cgi-…
Neville Brody: http://www.apple.com/pro/design/…
Herbert Spencer: http://www.lundhumphries.com/pag… & http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archiv…
David Carson: http://www.adobe.com/web/feature… & http://www.complink.net/greg/des…
David Carson did and make nice work, I believe that we should allow ourself to criticize him only if we haved reach his level.
- Jnr_Madison0
What 'level'?... how do you judge level.. sucess? work?? A'mean shamone.
- ********0
I think he means you need to have a few coffee table books under your belt!!
- Jnr_Madison0
He he.. I know.. I was meant to be ranting for no reason. Came across badly...
- rabattski&rabattski0
luv these discussions. although they should be done in a pub, pref. with some scottish designers and settle it with the fists :)
anyways, don't forget el lissitzky. i think he was/is one of the main inspirations for carson.
i luv carson. yes, he isn't as groundbreadking as he used to be. but sometimes his books really helped me out by just looking at it, looking at how he pissed on other people's opinions about what is good or bad, just to make your mind start up, think out of the box yadda yadda yadda. he didn't care. which i liked. as stated before, his opinion is form over function. and that's what he basically did.
- kodap0
If it wasn't for Carson, many guys weren't designers today.
he was my inspiration when I started doing things in the computer...
- Skylark0
I never heard of carson until now.
- benfal990
To see work of El Lissitzky: http://www.getty.edu/research/co…
- benfal990
Made in 1925:
No Photoshop at this time .... no computer!
- rabattski&rabattski0
yep i know. that is by the way the man himself. got that book. really impressive. very advanced for it's time.
- Geith0
Carson is the asscrack of real designers like Bass and Rand.
- thislandslid0
North_2 could not be more right on about the Weingart comment. I had a teacher that studied under Weingart and she talked to me about how much Carson and April Greiman learned from him. After that it was pretty easy to follow the paper trail and see where their ideas came from. But in ym opinion Weingart still held true to the beauty of swiss modernism and carson went off on some destructive tangent- and while that had its positive points i just can' stand it anymore.
as far as the whole graphic design rockstart thing, i find it amusing. I just quit being in a band and we were doing quite well- i got somewhat tired of the whole "rock and roll" thing (especially cause i was in a hardcore punk band) and i see the same attitudes within the design scene- idolization of a few creative people and a million people staring at the same pieces of work and copying it until you exhaust the originality of the innovators.
- unknown0
heh...all sounds like hating to me, funny thing is there is so much crappy design out there and you never hear someone complain about some ugly direct mailer they got in the mail and then we all bash it. I think most of the angry are just upset they dont get that kind of props...I mean really how many of you complaining one: are really strong designers? two: have done anything to add to the design evolution. Now this work here is old 1999-2000 but think back to what people were doing with broadcast then, http://www.davidcarsondesign.com…
this totally shows Carson has an understanding of design...you guys need to stop hating and make something
- benfal990
iam with you 573
well said