CONCEPT is King ??
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- vena0
i don't think they went far enough to explain the point and purpose behind the Segway to the everyman. the Segway is really just a proof of concept for a bigger technological innovation in mobility for the mobile-impared. like a version 1.0 of the wheelchair for the future.
that got overhyped to friggen death :)
- ********0
"good concept + bad (execution x attention to detail) = late night kebab"
rotfl..
- vena0
and seriously, the ONLY thing i miss about living in scotland is abrakebabra.
- unfittoprint0
Le Corbusier said that 'a true architect [there's usage for other fields of design of course] has to have the same attention for dtail from the urban plan to a house's door knob, and always be true to the initial concept'.
I remember a conference in A'Dam [Berlage Institute], where Rem used the 'F**k Details' term over and over, but when confronted with the fact that extreme detailing are in fact responsible for the sustainbility of a large part of his work, he couldn't come with an answer.
- ********0
good concept + overstyled design = Apple Powerbooks..
i really wouldn't mind if they were a bit thicker if they'd be more solid and sturdy..
style over function sadly.
- vena0
unfit: when was the last time you saw an architect mixing cement? :)
- ********0
right on..
it must have been some notorious Portuguese who confronted him with that question?
;)
- unfittoprint0
Last Saturday.
- vena0
good use of capitalisation there :P
- unfittoprint0
Japanese. Filled with Japanese.
Go figure.
- ********0
it's funny i had this discussion with my friend, both her parents are architects... we discussed to which extend architects are responisble for every single detail that is in a structure.
to what measure does an architect (not so much the solely technical arch. engineer) as a designer take network wires and infrastructure like that into account when a concept for a building is laid out?
- unfittoprint0
Janne: in the beggining very little. But it makes your life easier when you take into account that elements have to be like this because of structural beams passing inside, water & sewers having to go somewhere, sunlight as a decisive factor to to interior organization, security issues... Very basic stuff here, but the sooner it becomes an automated thing the better.
But one of the most interesting/complex things is the relation client-designer. It really shouldn't be a 1 way process. Unfortunately few clients are willing to learn something out of such endeavours...
- ********0
geez, even architects are victimized by horrible clients like this as well?
WHERE IS JUSTICE FOR CHRISTS SAKE!!
:''(
- dave2270
A good concept can be totally blown out of the water by a bad design. On the other hand, good design can only do so much for a shitty concept.
I encounter this problem a lot in my local market. The bottom line, and I think the true meaning of that statement, is that you must have a strong, clear concept to facilitate good design. The point of good design is to communicate a message. If you do not have a message, then you do not have a design. Period.
- jox0
Concept is everything. Nuff said.
- Peter0
Concept is a word that a lot of designers put on their website to cover up the lack of it
- Peter0
Concept is currently at Jox's flat
- paulrand0
"the incompetent leading the unwilling to do the unnecessary in an unbelievable amount of time"
I just read this today. It doesn't really have anything to do with this thread, but I liked it and wanted to share.
- lowimpakt0
'form follows fun'
'graphic design is making pictures, that is all'
(one of my best ind. design tutors)
- Chip0
dave227 coined it perfectly:
"A good concept can be totally blown out of the water by a bad design. On the other hand, good design can only do so much for a shitty concept. "
I could not agree more.
Well said.