Dear music industry
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- canadian
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Jox thank you. Great.
- unknown0
with all the money I saved downloading music I can now buy a kickass Dell M60
Thank you RIAA
- cookie0
As much as I get where everyone's coming from - what do you say to those smaller artists that are struggling to get by? They NEED to sell cds. There's no framework for them to make money off digital media and while there probably should be and the RIAA will obviously need to adapt, for the time being many artists would not be able to continue putting stuff out if it wasn't for their meagre cd sales.
.............?
- ikbenvanrijn0
if you think about it... their argument is "cd-r"s have been seeling most the last few years over cds.. i buy cd-rs instead of cd-rw because of $ at a 100 bundle per 9 dollars or so. of course cd-rs will beat cds in the market. does the same shit except re-write.
now is the time for them to feel the pain. i guess the revolt of the insame CD prices. i remember when CDs 1st came out they were around 20 beans a peice. but the thing was they had nice art to them. remember those long CD paper cases? they were just like record covers. now they are just jewel cases in plastic wrap.
- cookie0
isn't their argument that artists and the industry are losing money as opposed to cdr sales .....?
- ikbenvanrijn0
no. they look at it as cd-rs are surpassing reg cd sales
- cookie0
As much as I get where everyone's coming from - what do you say to those smaller artists that are struggling to get by? They NEED to sell cds. There's no framework for them to make money off digital media and while there probably should be and the RIAA will obviously need to adapt, for the time being many artists would not be able to continue putting stuff out if it wasn't for their meagre cd sales.
.............?
- unknown0
there are no small artists under the RIAA
- witch0
the whole music industry is ripp off. No one pays to see my web site. I spend probally more time designing it than an average musician writing a song.
- mrdobolina0
get what ya gonna get front and center
or get 5 years for breakin and enter
- monkeyshine0
I think Johnny Cash addressed the music industry better than anyone...
- mrdobolina0
nice, monkeyshines, nice.
- jpea0
ok, i have no feelings for any business involved in the RIAA... first off, music is not music anymore (actually, that mostly changed in the early 60's with single writing).... anyway, i guess here is where i'm coming from:
my sis has a rec contract with a major label. she made her 2nd album and "they" bought it from her and were distributing it for her. Trouble was, that when she was on her own, she'd pay about .40 cents a copy and anything she sold she could keep the profits. this all went back to paying for the creation of the cd (recording, pressing, artwork, etc..) and also went towards her new studio time and such..anyway, so the rec company bought her 2nd album, and started distributing it for her. now she has to pay $6 a copy for her own disk in order to sell it at shows. keep in mind, the record company doesn't have much overhead here from her. she recorded it on her own, she paid all the studio time already, and the did all the publicity for her album. "they", so far, have put almost NOTHING into her marketing of the album nor her touring expenses...
anyway, long story made a little shorter, she is dropping THEM and moving to a new label that will actually spend money on marketing her and she also won't have to pay crazily high prices for her own cd.
RIAA is just a front for the music biz in all it's glory... it's glory of ripping off the artists, ripping off the consumers, and ripping off the ideal of music as a beautiful creation.
RIAA can eat crap.
they can take all their albums and shove 'em up their ass, cause they're not helping any artists other than the top .3% aleady on top.nuf' said.
- quamb0
" the whole music industry is ripp off. No one pays to see my web site. I spend probally more time designing it than an average musician writing a song. "
so what do you do for a living then? musicians need to make money you moron.
- 4cY0
in short my opinion, not that it matters:
Music industry (for the most part: RIAA) choose to take the path of hatred and conservatism, they could have faced the new era and be innovative and positive to both clients and artists.
- unknown0
There has never been a linear correlation between the RIAA losing money and P2P networks. The RIAA claims are bogus in that regard. Furthermore, many non-RIAA music labels are actually encouraging the P2P model, because it means less money spent on advertising. Thirdly, the RIAA claims that downloading music is theft, however, theft occurs when someone is DEPRIVED of the thing that is stolen. In the case of downloading mp3's, the music is not STOLEN, it is COPIED, which is entirely different. Fourthly, they are invading our freedom from search and seizure by contacting ISP's and demanding they hand over their records. And there's more, lots more..
- unfittoprint0
monkeyshine, gotta love Johnny.
- AD0
there's a few things I don't understand and maybe someone can help me
how come the RIAA can sue people for sharing any copyrighted music - or is that not the case?
what I'm saying is that - they represent members of the US recording industry - and surely the RIAA doesn't own or have the copyright on all music - so how do they sue people for sharing files in general
nobody ever talks about this - is there a list of song titles that the RIAA somehow own the rights to? like if your sharing 1000s of copyrighted songs but they are all from groups outside of the US or with labels that have nothing to do with the RIAAA can they sue?
not sure if I'm being clear - but lets say I find out your stealing from Wallmart - there is no way I can sue you for theft - Wallmart would have to sue you - I can't start suing people for J-walking, even though it is illegal
so what's the deal - anybody know?
- BonSeff0
maybe the RIAA is the AIGA for record labels?
Thats a great question
- monkeyshine0
"when someone is DEPRIVED of the thing that is stolen. In the case of downloading mp3's, the music is not STOLEN, it is COPIED, which is entirely different."
...like I've said, I'm no friend of the RIAA or music industry; they stick it to recording artists and coming out now saying they are defending artists is sickening...HOWEVER, that argument (quoted above) that keeps getting tossed about is L A M E.
- AD0
so can anyone answer my question above? its been bugging me for a few weeks.
nobody seems to ask why they are suing. we know why in the sense that - they are trying to go after people who share music
but why are they allowed to sue people for all music they don't own? what am i missing? surely they don't own the rights all music so therefore there must be a list of groups they can sue for damages- no?.
and furthermore, what do they do with the money that they are suing people for - should it not be split up amongst the artists who's songs were downloaded by the perpretrater? this thought along the line of why can an organization collect money off theft of property that is not theirs?