Trying to hate PS's
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- ecnalab0
the mac's one button mouse argument is so worn... go buy a $15 multi button optical mouse..the right buton & scroll wheel functions just like in windows if you install the drivers
- mitsu0
in the end, they're all just trying to get your hard earned money...
- kpl0
apple designs computers to be used by humans.
microsoft designs computers to avoid tech support.
- auricom0
Panther on a G4 400? hmmm...not sure how that will go, hopefully it will be ok, but i'd max the memory though. It should be fine, but you may not be able to get the full potential out of Panther.
i'm on a G4 450 with 512mb at work and it does well with 10.2.6. although i can't use it often because i'm the only one with OS X. we found problems going from OS X to OS 9 using Photoshop 6 and 7. kept corrupting files, so they made me stay on 9.2.2, bastardo's.
- mitsu0
setup as in brand and/or specs of videocards, memory, processors, motherboards, etc, etc... drivers must be written so that the os will cooperate with any hardware so there are no conflicts. this task is left up to the hardware manufacturer, so we all just cross our fingers when we plug, and hope to play.
- starmer0
"for starters, microsoft has no idea what kind of setup you have"
then what do you mean by that?
*not trying to be a dick... i'm just confused.
- mitsu0
"PCs have known hardware specifications also. I can't just make up my own 89bit processor and expect windows to deal with it."
um... yeah, i didn't think i needed to qualify the obvious...
- cruz_azul0
an incagnito mac vs pc thread...
MAC BABY YEA.....
- sexypixel0
the problem with windows is .dll's, no?
- starmer0
"the mac os is built around a known hardware specification... "
PCs have known hardware specifications also. I can't just make up my own 89bit processor and expect windows to deal with it. If it were even possible I would have to deal with interfacing that beotch in the hardware and give it's services to windows in a 32 bit fashion. Just like when apple makes a 64bit processor. It's not like photoshop knows what to do with 64bits. It just get's things done faster because the hardware is doing the real work.
Hope I understood you correctly otherwise I just geeked out for nothing.
- ebon0
I will look out for Panther. I just hope my G4 400 will like it. =(
- sexypixel0
wow, a sensible mac pc thread. give yourselves a pat on the back guys :)
- auricom0
just wait for Panther, Expose will fix your window pet-peeves.
- ebon0
nicely put.
- mitsu0
windows isn't buggy because microsoft can't build a good os, it's buggy becuase of all the third party software you install that wasn't programmed correctly... windows is a forgiving os and programming errors can go unnoticed quite easily...
also, let's think about the platform for a second... the mac os is built around a known hardware specification... meaning that there are less variables in play. ergo (heh) when a software engineer is writing a program for the mac os, he/she knows the possible system hardware combinations already... they enjoy the same benefits as ps2, xbox or gamecube developers. with pc's, on the other hand, things aren't as simple... for starters, microsoft has no idea what kind of setup you have, nor can they anticipate what rogue software you're gonna isntall... so they're already off to a bad start. second the 3rd party developers also have to deal with the same frustrations not to mention be aware that their sofware will not be run exclusivley.
the only real problem with microsoft os's is the security holes that it leaves open. again, when you're os is written to adapt to the needs of such a divers group of users, this type of behavior is to be expected...
i'm not trying to prove that pc's are better than macs or vice versa, i'm only pointing out that neither are superior to the other. they are both tools, each with their own purpose and each with their own flaws. find the tool that works for you and use it.
- unknown0
that would be really really great, ebon. you explained well!
- ebon0
When will people learn you can but any mouse you want on a Mac. 2 buttons, 4 buttons, you could have a 15 button mouse if they made them.
I work on a PC all day at work. I go home to my Mac. The only major thing I would like to see is being able to edit file names and copy and past folders from within a programs open window. Like when you are in Photoshop on a PC you can click and existing file so your new file takes that name. Or even deleting files from within that window.
That's really hard to explain.
- sexypixel0
they both have they pluses, the one thing about mac is that programs down have an overall background, so your distracted with all kinds of other shit in the background.
saying that tho i havent used a mac in years but when i was in getting the ipod i had a play around with the new os and it looks great, buttons a bit big and cluncky but it was very smooth
- MrBixler0
Less is more but, if didn't use a Wacom i'd get pissed with the one button mouse.
Less may be more annoying?Disclaimer; I'll always buy Mac and will never change over.