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- mrdobolina0
What are some examples of Murdoch's tyranny. I guess I'm unaware.
- vespa0
Which avoided spotlight are you thinking of sexypixel? The one on Australia as the only developed country whose government has been condemned as racist by the United Nations? The stolen generation Spotlight? The Spotlight for the most dehumanising treatment of refugees ever witnessed?
Maybe complacency is bliss for those lucky enough not to see the dark side of Austalian politics.
- sexypixel0
Or coarse australia has its own internal problems. The whole refugee thing is a mess, but show me a country that has a good solution to it? And all of these issues have only come about in the past two years. (bar the stolen generation issue)
The world is getting smaller and Australia has to realise this.
But in general, you ask any man living here, wether he be asian, european, african Middle eastern, ask him how he likes australia and he will tell you it is a fair country and a prosperous one, without any religeous conflict/wars etc. That is what i mean by avoiding the spotlight. No country is perfect, but australia is the closest I've found to it.
- vespa0
mrdobolina: in Australia Murdoch's empire is all-encompassing. Of all the daily newspapers published in the capital cities, where most Australians live, two out of every three copies sold are Murdoch's. Three out of every four Sundays are Murdoch's. In Adelaide, he owns everything, including the printing presses.
World wide he has News Corp, 20th Century Fox Films, Fox News Channel, Sky, Asia's Star, the Sun, the New York Post, News of The World... the list goes on and on.
- sexypixel0
and ever news broadcast on every channel carries the same stories from the same viewpoint.
bar sbs
- mrdobolina0
I understand that one man owning all of that media cant be great for independent views, but his personal merit makes him an evil man?
- vespa0
"The whole refugee thing is a mess". Yep you could certainly call razor wired detention centres in some of the most hostile terrain on earth, a mess of a solution. That whole Tampa situation in 2001 made me sick. The government lying about refugees throwing their children overboard in an attempt to make them appear inhuman to the Australian public. What about that man who had been in an aus detention centre for 2 years whose wife was killed in the Bali bombing - their 2 young children (ages 3 & 7) were stranded alone in Bali and the Aus govt wouldn't give them visas to visit their father.
"all of these issues have only come about in the past two years." Australia has a long history to deal with. Some issues that come to mind are Aborigines, refugees and immigrants, Indonesia, East Timor, US and British foreign policies and Australia's role within them, to name but a few. Racism within Australia has been part of the political makeup from the beginning.
"you ask any man living here, wether he be asian, european, african Middle eastern, ask him how he likes australia and he will tell you it is a fair country and a prosperous one."
Maybe you should ask an Aborigine.
I'm not hating on Australia - I am very proud to be Australian, but I took off my rose tinted glasses a long time ago. These issues need to be dealt with before our country can truly be called a "fair" one.
- vespa0
mrdobolina, you know how these things work. ultimate power corrupts ultimately. Murdoch has vested interests in everything.
For instance, during Australia's bicentenary in 1988, an editorial in Murdoch's Sun described Aborigines as "treacherous and brutal", a people without skills, arts or graces who would have wiped themselves out if left alone. This was illustrated by a stereotype of a savage. The Press Council called it "offensive, misleading and unacceptably racist".
Murdoch is one of Australia's most powerful landowners and opponents of Aboriginal land rights.
His papers are the sleaziest tabloids on earth. They frequently launch attacks on impoverished single mothers, asylum seekers, whoever can be scapegoated most effectively. His papers inspire nationalistic ignorance. Evil is a strong word but i'd say it's appropriate.
- aka0
Mr Howard is one of the worst things to ever happen to Austaila. Hehas no backbone whatsoever and is content eat the scraps of Bush's plate. He's seriously fu*cking this country over and no-one seems to give a shit. I dont understand how the hell he's even still power.
short sighted and greedy. thats politicians.
- ********0
I still think Liechtenstein is safer. Only poststamp wars there.
- vespa0
You said it aka. John Howard (who? say all the non-australians) is a worm.
The reason why he is still there is a mystery. Maybe cos the competition:
A. is disorganised
B. is just as bad
C. doesn't get the support from murdoch media that the worms get.
- slinky0
I love this idea...
Australica!
Australia is my dream place to visit... probably a little more built up in my head than need be... i hope i get to go sometime.
- mrdobolina0
seems the aborigines got fucked, just like the natives in my country.
- vespa0
Yea but at least your govt acknowledged that the natives got fucked. In Australia Johnny Howard still refuses to acknowledge the injustices that have been perpetrated against the Aboriginal people.
Symptomatic of and propagating the idea that it's all water under the bridge, that there's nothing to be gained from understanding australia's black history.
- mrdobolina0
thats bad. But not until the 70's here, vespa.
during the 40's and 50's they used to make indian children go to interned schools away from their parents. Trying to take the indian culture out of the newer generation. While the parents were sent to the reservations. All sorts of conspiracy theories follow through with that. One of them being (and you can take this however you like) that the indian males were fed high starch diets, which in turn makes them addicted to sugar. When you are addicted to sugar you are at much higher risk of becoming an alcoholic. I have read many books by well-known indian activists and they dont necessarily buy it, but Its an interesting theory as the reservations in the united states are full of many chronic alcohol and drug abusers. Sorry I went on so long and off topic. This is more like a stream of consciousness at this point :P
- aka0
I think the whole political system in Australia needs a shake up.
Its like who do you choose?
Tweedle-dee or Tweedle-dum.Sack them all and start agian.
- unknown0
the whole world is shit, at leat the aussi have sunshine...
all coutries are fucked, twiddle dum or tweedle dumber
- Mimio0
It'll happen. Australia would dominate the Asia Pacific markets if it did. There's already a ton of US investment there.
- keyl0
I move to Aus. in 5 weeks.
you guys freak me out :)anyway, ozzies are shweet.
here the gov. is kinda funny looking. they discuss days on european problems and minutes on belgian's.
i'm bored of this fucking country that lets anyone come in and claim money, doing nothing.
(and i want sun) (and hotties) and byebye belgian beer and chocolate :(((
- whiteSneaks0
i don't know much about it but i am pretty sure the australian government has been an US experiment for several decades. a puppet state if you will. it is also eyed with much interest my US investors. Due to our strong currency we get a lot of bang for our buck down under. 2 for 1 last i checked. This makes australia a prime candidate for state hood. giving the US economy the boost it needs to stay ahead of the Euro.
Puerto Rico will never become a state due to the widespread poverty. It could bring down our entire welfare system over night.
In the end I doubt an Australia state will ever come to pass. I wouldn't worry to much.